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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-163070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162943&quot;&gt;Henry Herzog&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said Henry, don&#039;t be surprised at at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162943">Henry Herzog</a>.</p>
<p>Well said Henry, don&#8217;t be surprised at at all.</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-163034</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-163012&quot;&gt;Leon Poddebsky&lt;/a&gt;.

No minister of any party [including religious]your speaking to the converted, I&#039;ve lived through now retired Bishop Patrick Power [and others]and when members of the Catholic Church start grandstanding.......My first introduction to J/Wire some years back was &quot;Oh men of goodwill don&#039;t trust them&quot;........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-163012">Leon Poddebsky</a>.</p>
<p>No minister of any party [including religious]your speaking to the converted, I&#8217;ve lived through now retired Bishop Patrick Power [and others]and when members of the Catholic Church start grandstanding&#8230;&#8230;.My first introduction to J/Wire some years back was &#8220;Oh men of goodwill don&#8217;t trust them&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162845&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Lynne, if she used the term, &quot;two-state solution,&quot; she erred grievously on a number of counts:
1. whether or not a plan or proposal will solve a problem can be determined only AFTER it has been implemented and  the plan&#039;s aims are successfully achieved, in this case, peace.
2. all the evidence shows that the Arab society that calls itself &quot;Palestinian&quot; does not want a &quot;two-state solution&quot; because that would mean that Israel would continue to exist, an intolerable scenario for that society.
3.if the experiment of a &quot;two-state solution&quot; were to be conducted, the risk that Israel would thereby take would be that Judea-Samaria would become another Hamastan, a very likely result. This would cripple Israel.
Julie Bishop is a Minister of the Government of Australia, so her sole calculations are what is good for Australia, not for Israel.
4. She clearly has not thought through the implications of the fabrication of another &quot;Palestinian&quot; militarised state, namely, aggravated destabilisation of the Middle East.  That is not in Australia&#039;s interests. 
No minister of any party is infallible, and that includes Julie Bishop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162845">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Lynne, if she used the term, &#8220;two-state solution,&#8221; she erred grievously on a number of counts:<br />
1. whether or not a plan or proposal will solve a problem can be determined only AFTER it has been implemented and  the plan&#8217;s aims are successfully achieved, in this case, peace.<br />
2. all the evidence shows that the Arab society that calls itself &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; does not want a &#8220;two-state solution&#8221; because that would mean that Israel would continue to exist, an intolerable scenario for that society.<br />
3.if the experiment of a &#8220;two-state solution&#8221; were to be conducted, the risk that Israel would thereby take would be that Judea-Samaria would become another Hamastan, a very likely result. This would cripple Israel.<br />
Julie Bishop is a Minister of the Government of Australia, so her sole calculations are what is good for Australia, not for Israel.<br />
4. She clearly has not thought through the implications of the fabrication of another &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; militarised state, namely, aggravated destabilisation of the Middle East.  That is not in Australia&#8217;s interests.<br />
No minister of any party is infallible, and that includes Julie Bishop.</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162997</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162925&quot;&gt;Leon Poddebsky&lt;/a&gt;.

The Guardian back in Sept.2014 when she aligned Australia with the UK and US.
*Julie Bishop criticises Israel&#039;s decision to take over more West Bank land.
My apolologies Leon, I thought you just being political.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162925">Leon Poddebsky</a>.</p>
<p>The Guardian back in Sept.2014 when she aligned Australia with the UK and US.<br />
*Julie Bishop criticises Israel&#8217;s decision to take over more West Bank land.<br />
My apolologies Leon, I thought you just being political.</p>
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		By: Henry Herzog		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162943</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Herzog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2015 01:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162845&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, could you please replace the one above with the following comment. 

I know what you mean Lynne: those on the right only see and hear what they want to see and hear to further their right-wing agendas. I suspect that Miss Bishop will also be receiving an award from the University of Tehran for services to strengthen Iran in its quest to wipe Israel off the map.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162845">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, could you please replace the one above with the following comment. </p>
<p>I know what you mean Lynne: those on the right only see and hear what they want to see and hear to further their right-wing agendas. I suspect that Miss Bishop will also be receiving an award from the University of Tehran for services to strengthen Iran in its quest to wipe Israel off the map.</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lynne Newington, I am not aware of the statement by Bishop to which you referred.
No selective memory, but rather a gap in my knowledge.
Could you please let me know exactly what she said.
Mind you, I have no illusions about the capacity of the Coalition to turn on Israel; they could be just as adept at that as Labor, but I am not aware of her statement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne Newington, I am not aware of the statement by Bishop to which you referred.<br />
No selective memory, but rather a gap in my knowledge.<br />
Could you please let me know exactly what she said.<br />
Mind you, I have no illusions about the capacity of the Coalition to turn on Israel; they could be just as adept at that as Labor, but I am not aware of her statement.</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162855&quot;&gt;Gabrielle Gouch&lt;/a&gt;.

Any government that normalises relations with Iran and removes sanctions is an accomplice in the creation of an Iranian nuclear monster which will target the entire Middle East and beyond.
Lenin said that the capitalists would sell the communists the rope with which the latter would hang the former: apt analogy.
The so-called &quot;leader of the free world,&quot; the USA, having capitulated to Iran, and with the capitalists of Europe, China and Russia salivating to exploit what Britain&#039;s Foreign Secretary cynically and self-defeatingly called, &quot;business opportunities,&quot; the rest of the world sees no point in being the sucker who misses out on such opportunities.
Avarice, shortsightedness, stupidity rule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162855">Gabrielle Gouch</a>.</p>
<p>Any government that normalises relations with Iran and removes sanctions is an accomplice in the creation of an Iranian nuclear monster which will target the entire Middle East and beyond.<br />
Lenin said that the capitalists would sell the communists the rope with which the latter would hang the former: apt analogy.<br />
The so-called &#8220;leader of the free world,&#8221; the USA, having capitulated to Iran, and with the capitalists of Europe, China and Russia salivating to exploit what Britain&#8217;s Foreign Secretary cynically and self-defeatingly called, &#8220;business opportunities,&#8221; the rest of the world sees no point in being the sucker who misses out on such opportunities.<br />
Avarice, shortsightedness, stupidity rule.</p>
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		By: Gabrielle Gouch		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabrielle Gouch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about her developing relationship with Iran? I am not referring to Obama&#039;s deal, but sending back Iranian refugees, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about her developing relationship with Iran? I am not referring to Obama&#8217;s deal, but sending back Iranian refugees, etc.</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162739&quot;&gt;Leon Poddebsky&lt;/a&gt;.

You have a selective memory unless I have it wrong; twelve months ago she was telling you she wasn&#039;t happy with Israels decision to claim land that would undermine a two state solution fully supported by Australia.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162739">Leon Poddebsky</a>.</p>
<p>You have a selective memory unless I have it wrong; twelve months ago she was telling you she wasn&#8217;t happy with Israels decision to claim land that would undermine a two state solution fully supported by Australia&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/hebrew-uni-award-for-julie-bishop/#comment-162739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Julie Bishop has demonstrated honesty and a firm grasp of international law regarding the myth of &quot;Illegal settlements.&quot;
I am referring to the challenge which she issued to the myth disseminators to show her the supposed law on which their false claims rest.
Our erstwhile friend, Bob Ashrawi, likes to try to fool us into believing that The Geneva Convention applies, but on at least four grounds, it does not:
1. Jordan held Judea-Samaria illegally.
2  Hence those territories were not part of a state (and had not been a state since the fall of the Second Jewish Commonwealth.)
3. Jordan was not a &quot;high contracting party&quot; to the Convention.
4. the Jews living in Judea-Samaria are not deportees.
5. the intent of the Convention was to prevent a recurrence of the kinds of deportations which the Nazis had perpetrated.

The ultimate status of Judea-Samaria will be determined by the People and Government of Israel and the Arabs who call themselves &quot;Palestinians&quot; if the latter can bring themselves to accept that Jews too have rights.

Julie Bishop constantly demonstrates a high degree of competence in all the political roles which she fulfils, such as Foreign Affairs, leadership, effective communication with the Australian People etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie Bishop has demonstrated honesty and a firm grasp of international law regarding the myth of &#8220;Illegal settlements.&#8221;<br />
I am referring to the challenge which she issued to the myth disseminators to show her the supposed law on which their false claims rest.<br />
Our erstwhile friend, Bob Ashrawi, likes to try to fool us into believing that The Geneva Convention applies, but on at least four grounds, it does not:<br />
1. Jordan held Judea-Samaria illegally.<br />
2  Hence those territories were not part of a state (and had not been a state since the fall of the Second Jewish Commonwealth.)<br />
3. Jordan was not a &#8220;high contracting party&#8221; to the Convention.<br />
4. the Jews living in Judea-Samaria are not deportees.<br />
5. the intent of the Convention was to prevent a recurrence of the kinds of deportations which the Nazis had perpetrated.</p>
<p>The ultimate status of Judea-Samaria will be determined by the People and Government of Israel and the Arabs who call themselves &#8220;Palestinians&#8221; if the latter can bring themselves to accept that Jews too have rights.</p>
<p>Julie Bishop constantly demonstrates a high degree of competence in all the political roles which she fulfils, such as Foreign Affairs, leadership, effective communication with the Australian People etc.</p>
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