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		By: Otto Waldmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otto Waldmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54206&quot;&gt;Spotlighting&lt;/a&gt;.

What do you mean by &quot;cautious&quot; ??!!
He has been anything BUT cautious. The statement released by the NSWJBD is so full of absurdities and irrelevant stuff all defying any intellectual caution.
It is a &quot;leadership&quot; irritant , a piece of rhetorical nonsense which only &quot;cautious&quot; is not. It offends rationale.
Leaders are supposed to insipre , motivate and offer assurances. This statement is all BUT that.
Our community does not need to be reminded that it should &quot;abide by the law&quot; (sic) !!!
You got the whole thing completely the other way around...............]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54206">Spotlighting</a>.</p>
<p>What do you mean by &#8220;cautious&#8221; ??!!<br />
He has been anything BUT cautious. The statement released by the NSWJBD is so full of absurdities and irrelevant stuff all defying any intellectual caution.<br />
It is a &#8220;leadership&#8221; irritant , a piece of rhetorical nonsense which only &#8220;cautious&#8221; is not. It offends rationale.<br />
Leaders are supposed to insipre , motivate and offer assurances. This statement is all BUT that.<br />
Our community does not need to be reminded that it should &#8220;abide by the law&#8221; (sic) !!!<br />
You got the whole thing completely the other way around&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54223</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 04:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54198&quot;&gt;Otto Waldmann&lt;/a&gt;.

My experience is, whether an opportunist act or not, in the end, stench of foul play is always overwhelming and by now you should know where my sensitivities lie and I&#039;m far from  downplaying....
See what comes out in court, besides, the Jewish community is awash with expert legals lucky you, that&#039;s why the Catholic church always seeks them out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54198">Otto Waldmann</a>.</p>
<p>My experience is, whether an opportunist act or not, in the end, stench of foul play is always overwhelming and by now you should know where my sensitivities lie and I&#8217;m far from  downplaying&#8230;.<br />
See what comes out in court, besides, the Jewish community is awash with expert legals lucky you, that&#8217;s why the Catholic church always seeks them out.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54193&quot;&gt;velvel&lt;/a&gt;.

Not the 23 year old, the 17 year old.
There is an article on Haaretz, which is behind a paywall. Clearly they do not want readers.

&quot;Two minors, both 17, were arrested and charged with affray and breach of bail. They appeared in the New South Wales Children’s Court on Monday via video-link from their cell and were ordered to reappear on November 12. 
A third man, aged 23, is scheduled to appear in court on December 3. Police are still searching for other gang members&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54193">velvel</a>.</p>
<p>Not the 23 year old, the 17 year old.<br />
There is an article on Haaretz, which is behind a paywall. Clearly they do not want readers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Two minors, both 17, were arrested and charged with affray and breach of bail. They appeared in the New South Wales Children’s Court on Monday via video-link from their cell and were ordered to reappear on November 12.<br />
A third man, aged 23, is scheduled to appear in court on December 3. Police are still searching for other gang members&#8221;</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54196&quot;&gt;Paul Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you will find that the name of a person charged is not released until they are arraigned. The ethnicity of people is only released when seeking suspects. Which in this case has not been the case. The report in Haaretz, which came directly from the people who were assaulted and before they were silenced, claims the culprits were a mixed bag of Pacific Islanders and others.

Information regarding the so-called &#039;children&#039; is always suppressed. High time we classified the age of children.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54196">Paul Winter</a>.</p>
<p>I think you will find that the name of a person charged is not released until they are arraigned. The ethnicity of people is only released when seeking suspects. Which in this case has not been the case. The report in Haaretz, which came directly from the people who were assaulted and before they were silenced, claims the culprits were a mixed bag of Pacific Islanders and others.</p>
<p>Information regarding the so-called &#8216;children&#8217; is always suppressed. High time we classified the age of children.</p>
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		By: Spotlighting		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 17:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;d appreciate any further information regarding this incident. Mr. Miller has been cautious as is expected of any community leader and we commend him. Having said that however, it is incumbent that the NSW authorities take note that a full investigation is expected with due transparency and that the Jewish community continue to abide by the law whilst remaining fully alert.

Spotlighting]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;d appreciate any further information regarding this incident. Mr. Miller has been cautious as is expected of any community leader and we commend him. Having said that however, it is incumbent that the NSW authorities take note that a full investigation is expected with due transparency and that the Jewish community continue to abide by the law whilst remaining fully alert.</p>
<p>Spotlighting</p>
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		By: Otto Waldmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otto Waldmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54182&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Right now, now , Lynne, we can state with confidence that there is no confidence in a system that allowed such a large scale attack to occur in plain public view. Those poor Jews were all alone in a crowded place long enough to end up in hospital. What hurt is that one of the victims said that &quot;...EVENTUALLY&quot; the security guards from a hotel in the place the attack took place intervened. That &quot;eventually&quot; also means that they saw it for quite a while but, aparently, failed to react immediately.
I know that the brief for security guards employed in one place is not to leave that place etc., but where do we draw the line between &quot;job description&quot; and other considerations !? I must not be misunderstood, the action of the security guards did, eventually, put an end, but FIVE out of eight bastards got away because there was not sufficient help provided, not to  mention Police presence in a timely manner. The three hooligans arrested were NOT stopped by Police but by the bystanders and a taxi driver who must be commended for his intervention.
Incidentally which one of the numerous solicitors or , for that matter, big &quot;leaders&quot;  on the Board of deps. go to the Children&#039;s Court on the day of the first hearings !!?? Is that also sub jidice ??!!
We deserve a report on that from the President of the Board, without delay !!
As about the future, Lynne, will talk about it in a few years from now.
Right now &quot;random&quot; is not kosher at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54182">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Right now, now , Lynne, we can state with confidence that there is no confidence in a system that allowed such a large scale attack to occur in plain public view. Those poor Jews were all alone in a crowded place long enough to end up in hospital. What hurt is that one of the victims said that &#8220;&#8230;EVENTUALLY&#8221; the security guards from a hotel in the place the attack took place intervened. That &#8220;eventually&#8221; also means that they saw it for quite a while but, aparently, failed to react immediately.<br />
I know that the brief for security guards employed in one place is not to leave that place etc., but where do we draw the line between &#8220;job description&#8221; and other considerations !? I must not be misunderstood, the action of the security guards did, eventually, put an end, but FIVE out of eight bastards got away because there was not sufficient help provided, not to  mention Police presence in a timely manner. The three hooligans arrested were NOT stopped by Police but by the bystanders and a taxi driver who must be commended for his intervention.<br />
Incidentally which one of the numerous solicitors or , for that matter, big &#8220;leaders&#8221;  on the Board of deps. go to the Children&#8217;s Court on the day of the first hearings !!?? Is that also sub jidice ??!!<br />
We deserve a report on that from the President of the Board, without delay !!<br />
As about the future, Lynne, will talk about it in a few years from now.<br />
Right now &#8220;random&#8221; is not kosher at all.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54151&quot;&gt;Otto Waldmann&lt;/a&gt;.

Kol hakavod Mr Waldmann. Brilliantly put. Most of the community is with you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54151">Otto Waldmann</a>.</p>
<p>Kol hakavod Mr Waldmann. Brilliantly put. Most of the community is with you.</p>
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		By: Paul Winter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And just an after thought.

Why is there a news blackout on the name, ethnicity and suburb of residence on the 23 year old? Why is there a blackout of the acts which got the 17 year olds into jail?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just an after thought.</p>
<p>Why is there a news blackout on the name, ethnicity and suburb of residence on the 23 year old? Why is there a blackout of the acts which got the 17 year olds into jail?</p>
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		By: Paul Winter		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/bondi-attack-a-random-incident/#comment-54195</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 100% with Otto, but I&#039;ll be more succinct.

Random? Rubbish!! If 5 out of 5 are Jewish the attack is targeted and not random. The antisemitic scum had all the time to attack people, but waited till a target group was sighted.

That 5 days after the attack the police still haven&#039;t caught the rest of the Jew bashimg criminals indicates that the praise for doing what they are paid and sworn to do - uphold our laws - was just a tad too premature.

Any thoughts of getting a bunch of kippah wearing krav maga experts to parade on the promanade and regain the beach for all, especially Jews. Oh, heavens no. So direct. So undiplomatic.  Why, the police may get upset if they are forced to act against lawbreakers.

As for the Greens, your comments are not wanted. You have stirred against Israel, meaning Jews, for so long that no Jew can accept your statements of support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 100% with Otto, but I&#8217;ll be more succinct.</p>
<p>Random? Rubbish!! If 5 out of 5 are Jewish the attack is targeted and not random. The antisemitic scum had all the time to attack people, but waited till a target group was sighted.</p>
<p>That 5 days after the attack the police still haven&#8217;t caught the rest of the Jew bashimg criminals indicates that the praise for doing what they are paid and sworn to do &#8211; uphold our laws &#8211; was just a tad too premature.</p>
<p>Any thoughts of getting a bunch of kippah wearing krav maga experts to parade on the promanade and regain the beach for all, especially Jews. Oh, heavens no. So direct. So undiplomatic.  Why, the police may get upset if they are forced to act against lawbreakers.</p>
<p>As for the Greens, your comments are not wanted. You have stirred against Israel, meaning Jews, for so long that no Jew can accept your statements of support.</p>
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		By: velvel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[.....random incident......
i know these dear people   they daven at our shule

they were abused  with f.....jew and had their bodies beaten up!!!!

this is not random!
and incidently  csg know that attacks on shules   happen on fri night and shabbes   there are never incidents   at shabbes mincha   and after shabbes   because csg dont do security then!
ps it must have been random  because the 23 year old hooligan is out on bail!!

Hashem Yaazor!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..random incident&#8230;&#8230;<br />
i know these dear people   they daven at our shule</p>
<p>they were abused  with f&#8230;..jew and had their bodies beaten up!!!!</p>
<p>this is not random!<br />
and incidently  csg know that attacks on shules   happen on fri night and shabbes   there are never incidents   at shabbes mincha   and after shabbes   because csg dont do security then!<br />
ps it must have been random  because the 23 year old hooligan is out on bail!!</p>
<p>Hashem Yaazor!!</p>
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