Comments on: Brenner Protest in Newtown

By: Shirlee

Shirlee — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:47:52 +0000

For those who wish to voice their opinions….have a go at this

“Poking a Zionist Hornet’s Nest: Defending the Right to Boycott Max Brenner”

http://indymedia.org.au/2011/08/21/poking-a-zionist-hornets-nest-defending-the-right-to-boycott-max-brenner

By: Shirlee

Shirlee — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:37:08 +0000

Kate !!!… I beg your pardon. An apology is more than in order !!!
Try reading.

You say in your post above “Further your assertion of closing the door happened for a short period of time”

I didn’t say that, you need to learn to read.

I wrote on my last post………………

***Have a look around at some of their websites…………

Like this “On arrival at Max Brenner, we found the promised crowd of supporters of Israel’s war crimes pretending to be happy customers of Max Brenner. Of course, they couldn’t keep up the pretence, abusing us through the glass, and a few even coming out onto the footpath to make vile racist comments about how many Palestinians had been killed. The protest got louder and we had the numbers. Max Brenner had to close its door. As we dispersed down King St, further announcements of “We’ll be back ” ***

If you are able to read, it’s a post from another web site, namely “Defend the Israel Boycott 19”
http://boycottisrael19.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/successful-palestine-protest-in-newtown-sydney-more-to-come-on-sat-10-sept/

Unlike you I am not in the habit of telling untruths.

Do I hear sorry ??

By: Kate

Kate — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:16:56 +0000

Shirlee by your own admission it wouldn’t matter if people were inside the shop, outside the shop, around the corner or in another state, silent, drinking cofee, shouting, singing or talking, the BDSer will still write whatever lies they wish to on their site as no one- and you know this- shouted anything about “killing Palestinian children”.

Further your asseertion of closing the door happened for a short period of time in order to hear the Policeman’s address to us- advise us of their legal permit and when the rabble will be moved on- the way you have written the post asserts the reason of getting to loud was to have people assume that the “mob” inside the shop needed to shut up- you too have to ensure that you tell the whole truth and not just “snippets” of it.

By: Shirlee

Shirlee — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 05:57:53 +0000

If we let them get on with it, they will destroy themselves. they are doing it already.
They are angry they aren’t getting media coverage they want.

That in the main is because we aren’t counter protesting and causing a furore. Once we do that, it will make the MSM and they will get the glory they want

I have been following this for a good while now and they are reading these comments laughing at us all.
Have a look around at some of their websites

I never used to agree with ‘not giving them oxygen’ and had a good few arguments along the way.

I came to my senses at Parramatta. I stood there faced with 150 screaming idiots, who probably had no idea what they were screaming about. I thought “what the hell am I doing here? This is stupid” Which it is.

What do you think you will achieve by standing and screaming back at them?

I can tell you – nothing.

Do what I’ve done for years and what our Community leaders advise us to do

Comment on blogs

Comment on articles and web sites.

Speak with people and tell them the truth. Screaming and shouting may relieve some of your pent up frustrations, but it will achieve nothing.

Last week at Sydney University with gentle truth telling a pro-Palestinian was brought around somewhat to our way of thinking. With teaching her more, she will accept the truth

It wasn’t the police by the way who asked me to try to get people inside, it was asked of me from elsewhere.

By: stuart

stuart — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:54:42 +0000

Furthermore, if the Australian Government has seen fit to let a business trade in this country and they have passed our rules and regulations and are conducting themselves in manner that benefits Australia and pays their workers an award wage, pays their taxes and conducts them selves in an ethical manner what right does the BDS have to conduct themselves in this manner? I’m truly disgusted that something has not been done to stop this left wing nut case commercial apartheid.

By: stuart

stuart — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:45:09 +0000

Dear Shirlee, I was one of the people that stayed outside. I am not Jewish nor Israeli my objection to these thugs comes from the fact that Max Brenners is a law abiding corporate entity , they pay their taxes and employ Australian citizens. I am disgusted that in this day and age I am harassed and barred entry to a business legally carrying out their trade. Freedom of speech is one thing but these thugs cross the line with their threatening behavior. The level of noise coming from the loud megaphones is at a level that hurts your ears, surely this assault. I felt sorry for the police. As I said before, I am an Australian, we should not have to put up with this type of “retail terrorism” . If they have such a problem with Israel, why are they not over there protecting the Palestinians, if you come to this Country you should leave your prejudice and racist attitudes elsewhere, but unfortunately the BDS want to re enact 1940s Nazi Germany, do we have our own “Night of the broken glass” to look forward to ?
Congratulations to all those people, who stayed inside Max Brenner. To those who stayed outside I understand your reasons and commend them also.

It is their right to protest if they so feel , however freedom of speech should not impact on others. They have no right to tell me where to shop and this Government should listen to the people who do not want this type of violent and illegal behavior to continue.

By: Kate

Kate — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:22:03 +0000

Shirley you should be utterly ashamed of yourself. Instead of supporting those who were there you undermine. One of those supporters was my husband who in face of being screamed at, megaphones put into his face stated to the BDSers that he will not be bullied nor intimidated by these bullies. Yes the Police did ask him to go inside however he repeated to them that it is a public street and he has the same right as these “protesters to remain outside and not be bullied by “these thugs” The Police then left him and said nothing more. Shirley you may indeed have been asked by the Police to get people inside however you are not the Police and have absolutely no right to tell others what they should be doing otherwise you are mimicking those on the megaphone. What the Police wanted was an easy time with the “protesters”. You are not the moral police, nor the dictator of how others wish to express their views. If someone wants to dance and mock the BDSers then it is their right to do so. If others want to sing – again it is theri right to do so-You have no claim to how others should react. The fact that you kept silent is your decsion and yours alone. Otherwise you are no better than the BDSers who are trying to dictate where and how we shop.

Further your threat of: “I do have the names of those involved””- is truly shameful and the fact you cannot even consider that perhaps it was you who is in the wrong to even state such as thing actually portrays the ignorance you criticise others as having. Perhaps thinking about what you write and how you write it may not go astray.

By: Shirlee

Shirlee — Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:37:08 +0000

I cannot believe stupid ignorant remarks like the one above are being posted,

By: hasbaracentral

hasbaracentral — Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:48:49 +0000

Excuse me Shirlee, are Australian Jews born in Israel or do their parents come from Israel ? bringing foreign issues here when the JNF collects millions to displace Bedoin in the Negev, when the Zionists here celebrate Israel day, rally in support of the wars on Lebanaon, Gaza and the Zionist lobby operates here with Australian citizens as memebers. Sauce for the goose has to be sauce for the gander.

By: The_Observer

The_Observer — Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:14:38 +0000

@Shirlee
Not when multi-culturalism means one aggressive group manipulating a host government to the detriment of a third party or another nation.
You emigrate to a country for a new life. You are implicitly saying that you want a clean start for yourselves and your families. If you want to bring your “baggage” from the old country then you might as well have stayed at home. In my opinion, this should be made a requisite for immigration to Australia wheher it be for Greek, Italian, Jewish, Macedonian, Lebanese, etc migrants. Australia should really be making honest appraisals of economic and other global matters to make optimal decisions of what is good for all Australians. You can’t do that when politicians and parties are being manipulated behind-the-scenes by donors and lobby groups with political interests other than Australia’s..