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		By: Otto Waldmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otto Waldmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131711&quot;&gt;Schneur Naji&lt;/a&gt;.

yes he MUST and you should be  a neue Rebbe !!! 
Happy now ??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131711">Schneur Naji</a>.</p>
<p>yes he MUST and you should be  a neue Rebbe !!!<br />
Happy now ??</p>
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		By: Otto Waldmann		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otto Waldmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131328&quot;&gt;ben gershon&lt;/a&gt;.

the word &quot;mantch&quot; does not exist !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131328">ben gershon</a>.</p>
<p>the word &#8220;mantch&#8221; does not exist !!!</p>
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		By: Schneur Naji		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131715</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schneur Naji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131714&quot;&gt;Schneur Naji&lt;/a&gt;.

one should never equate homosexuality and pedophilia, the later is a heinous crime akin to murder perpetrated again innocent children.
Orthodox Judaism does not place them in the same category.
Homosexuality is not a illness which can be cured, it is an orientation which is not supported by the Torah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131714">Schneur Naji</a>.</p>
<p>one should never equate homosexuality and pedophilia, the later is a heinous crime akin to murder perpetrated again innocent children.<br />
Orthodox Judaism does not place them in the same category.<br />
Homosexuality is not a illness which can be cured, it is an orientation which is not supported by the Torah.</p>
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		By: Schneur Naji		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schneur Naji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131355&quot;&gt;Michael Barnett&lt;/a&gt;.

If a person is an Orthodox Jew, by definition she cannot give the green light to homosexual behavior, however no one needs to be vindictive or hurtful and disparage homosexuals as people.
Ahavas Yisroel must be shown to all Jews and decency to all human beings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131355">Michael Barnett</a>.</p>
<p>If a person is an Orthodox Jew, by definition she cannot give the green light to homosexual behavior, however no one needs to be vindictive or hurtful and disparage homosexuals as people.<br />
Ahavas Yisroel must be shown to all Jews and decency to all human beings.</p>
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		By: Schneur Naji		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schneur Naji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131300&quot;&gt;David Adler&lt;/a&gt;.

As a Lubavitcher I find Rabbi Telsner&#039;s comments an embarrassment, inappropriate and counterproductive.
Is he resigning?.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131300">David Adler</a>.</p>
<p>As a Lubavitcher I find Rabbi Telsner&#8217;s comments an embarrassment, inappropriate and counterproductive.<br />
Is he resigning?.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131674</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131625&quot;&gt;Liat Nagar&lt;/a&gt;.

Fully agree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131625">Liat Nagar</a>.</p>
<p>Fully agree.</p>
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		By: Liat Nagar		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131625</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rabbi Tzi Telsner should know better than to speak about things on which he is ignorant. Ignorance breeds intolerance and the Rabbi&#039;s statement linking paedophilia and homosexuality is not only stupid, it&#039;s dangerous. If taken seriously by those under his influence who are also ignorant or accept everything he says because he&#039;s a Rabbi, then it incites discrimination and possibly worse. This is an example of why Judaic knowledge alone is not enough for good practice of Rabbinical duties. The Rabbi can speak the lines of the Torah that mention homosexual acts, but can&#039;t go further than that; indeed I wonder in the 21st century, with the scientific knowledge we now have at our disposal, what the purpose of focussing on those lines would be.  

There are all sorts of things we don&#039;t do today that are mentioned in the Torah, we don&#039;t kill animals for a sacrificial ceremony, we don&#039;t stone people to death. So let&#039;s be careful what we pick and choose as to what&#039;s okay and what isn&#039;t.

As for the Rabbi telling the Royal Commission homosexuality is curable - unbelievable! It&#039;s embarrassing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Tzi Telsner should know better than to speak about things on which he is ignorant. Ignorance breeds intolerance and the Rabbi&#8217;s statement linking paedophilia and homosexuality is not only stupid, it&#8217;s dangerous. If taken seriously by those under his influence who are also ignorant or accept everything he says because he&#8217;s a Rabbi, then it incites discrimination and possibly worse. This is an example of why Judaic knowledge alone is not enough for good practice of Rabbinical duties. The Rabbi can speak the lines of the Torah that mention homosexual acts, but can&#8217;t go further than that; indeed I wonder in the 21st century, with the scientific knowledge we now have at our disposal, what the purpose of focussing on those lines would be.  </p>
<p>There are all sorts of things we don&#8217;t do today that are mentioned in the Torah, we don&#8217;t kill animals for a sacrificial ceremony, we don&#8217;t stone people to death. So let&#8217;s be careful what we pick and choose as to what&#8217;s okay and what isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As for the Rabbi telling the Royal Commission homosexuality is curable &#8211; unbelievable! It&#8217;s embarrassing.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131300&quot;&gt;David Adler&lt;/a&gt;.

David, I&#039;m not sure if you understand, but in Australia it&#039;s not illegal to be homosexual.  However it is illegal to rape children.  You might like to focus on the issue of consent rather than target the sexuality (perceived or actual) of the offenders.  Because a man rapes male children does not make him homosexual.  It just makes him a male boy rapist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131300">David Adler</a>.</p>
<p>David, I&#8217;m not sure if you understand, but in Australia it&#8217;s not illegal to be homosexual.  However it is illegal to rape children.  You might like to focus on the issue of consent rather than target the sexuality (perceived or actual) of the offenders.  Because a man rapes male children does not make him homosexual.  It just makes him a male boy rapist.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131350&quot;&gt;Miriam Fletcher&lt;/a&gt;.

Miriam, I think you&#039;ll find the point is that what this &quot;loyal Torah-observant Rabbi&quot; has said is out of touch with the reality of the world we live in, a world in which I can have a husband if I want to.  We do not &quot;cure&quot; homosexual people and we do not compare homosexuality with paedophilia, much like we don&#039;t stone people to death any more, nor do we let men have multiple wives.  The world has moved on.  You can either move on too or be left behind, like this rabbi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131350">Miriam Fletcher</a>.</p>
<p>Miriam, I think you&#8217;ll find the point is that what this &#8220;loyal Torah-observant Rabbi&#8221; has said is out of touch with the reality of the world we live in, a world in which I can have a husband if I want to.  We do not &#8220;cure&#8221; homosexual people and we do not compare homosexuality with paedophilia, much like we don&#8217;t stone people to death any more, nor do we let men have multiple wives.  The world has moved on.  You can either move on too or be left behind, like this rabbi.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131270&quot;&gt;Mijo&lt;/a&gt;.

We are all human.  We are all equal.  No one has the right to place moral judgement on another person for something that is a non-criminal intrinsic part of their personality.  IF you feel it&#039;s against your religion to be homosexual, let your god make that call.  Don&#039;t be that god.

The JCCV believes all people should be treated equality.  They are not a religious body but an organisation that represents the various Jewish perspectives in their community.  You might disagree with others on what being Jewish means, but no one owns that definition.  Not the JCCV, and most certainly not you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/touch-rabbi/#comment-131270">Mijo</a>.</p>
<p>We are all human.  We are all equal.  No one has the right to place moral judgement on another person for something that is a non-criminal intrinsic part of their personality.  IF you feel it&#8217;s against your religion to be homosexual, let your god make that call.  Don&#8217;t be that god.</p>
<p>The JCCV believes all people should be treated equality.  They are not a religious body but an organisation that represents the various Jewish perspectives in their community.  You might disagree with others on what being Jewish means, but no one owns that definition.  Not the JCCV, and most certainly not you.</p>
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