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		By: Bruce J Cooke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Manny,

when we had dinner on Sunday night I spoke to you about how the Yeshivah should have fessed up to all that it did wrong.

I gave you the Talmudic precedent for this(Sotah 7b) where it speaks about Reuven &#038; Yehudah doing the right thing &#038; admitting their wrongdoing.

You made a few notes &#038; I recall you writing this one down.

I was heartened last night to hear Rabbi Jacobson refer to this exact text to draw attention to what SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

You will note below my correspondence drawing this to Rabbi Telsners attention in June 2012.

Of course I did not even receive the courtesy  of a reply &#038; most certainly no compliance with my now validated &#038; prescient request.

Whilst the gates of repentance are always open,there are times when, &#038; Biblical references to, exceptions to this rule.

There are recalcitrant &#038; unrepentant apologists aplenty in the community to this very day &#038; this needs to be addressed.

 These apologists are holocaust deniers because for the victims of CSA this was their personal holocaust &#038; the gates of repentance appear sealed to apologists.

The time has come to respectfully canvass for these people to be removed from the community.

As long as they remain within the community they contaminate the community &#038; compromise it.

They plant the seed of doubt as did Amalek.

Holocaust deniers have no shame so there is no shame in naming them &#038; exposing what they have espoused be it in private or public.

Your style of speaking calmly with respectful &#038;measured words has won out against an onslaught of Biblical proportions.

I would hope you now add to your campaign that these recalcitrant bullies &#038; apologists should be excluded from the community in every respect,

Kind Regards

Bruce



-- 
Bruce J. Cooke
PO Box 1136
Elsternwick 3185
 
Phone: 9525 8287
Mobile: 0427 brucey
Email: brucejamescooke@gmail.com



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Request from Bruce Cooke
Date: 	Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:15:38 +1000
From: 	Bruce Cooke 
To: 	rabbi.telsner@yeshivahcentre.org


Dear Rabbi Telsner,
I have a request.
At the moment we all know there are serious issuesconfronting the 
community &#038; indeed the management.
Would it not be appropriate at this time for you to give a drasha on 
Shabbat on what it speaks about in Sotah 7b.
In my copy of Ein Yaakov this Gemara is headed:

THEY ADMITTED THEIR WRONGDOING.

It  goes on to speak about &quot;fessing up&quot; &#038; how that produces the best 
outcome,

gut Shabbat

Bruce


-- 
Bruce J. Cooke
PO Box 1136
Elsternwick 3185]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Manny,</p>
<p>when we had dinner on Sunday night I spoke to you about how the Yeshivah should have fessed up to all that it did wrong.</p>
<p>I gave you the Talmudic precedent for this(Sotah 7b) where it speaks about Reuven &amp; Yehudah doing the right thing &amp; admitting their wrongdoing.</p>
<p>You made a few notes &amp; I recall you writing this one down.</p>
<p>I was heartened last night to hear Rabbi Jacobson refer to this exact text to draw attention to what SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.</p>
<p>You will note below my correspondence drawing this to Rabbi Telsners attention in June 2012.</p>
<p>Of course I did not even receive the courtesy  of a reply &amp; most certainly no compliance with my now validated &amp; prescient request.</p>
<p>Whilst the gates of repentance are always open,there are times when, &amp; Biblical references to, exceptions to this rule.</p>
<p>There are recalcitrant &amp; unrepentant apologists aplenty in the community to this very day &amp; this needs to be addressed.</p>
<p> These apologists are holocaust deniers because for the victims of CSA this was their personal holocaust &amp; the gates of repentance appear sealed to apologists.</p>
<p>The time has come to respectfully canvass for these people to be removed from the community.</p>
<p>As long as they remain within the community they contaminate the community &amp; compromise it.</p>
<p>They plant the seed of doubt as did Amalek.</p>
<p>Holocaust deniers have no shame so there is no shame in naming them &amp; exposing what they have espoused be it in private or public.</p>
<p>Your style of speaking calmly with respectful &amp;measured words has won out against an onslaught of Biblical proportions.</p>
<p>I would hope you now add to your campaign that these recalcitrant bullies &amp; apologists should be excluded from the community in every respect,</p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Bruce J. Cooke<br />
PO Box 1136<br />
Elsternwick 3185</p>
<p>Phone: 9525 8287<br />
Mobile: 0427 brucey<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:brucejamescooke@gmail.com">brucejamescooke@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Forwarded Message &#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Subject: 	Request from Bruce Cooke<br />
Date: 	Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:15:38 +1000<br />
From: 	Bruce Cooke<br />
To: 	<a href="mailto:rabbi.telsner@yeshivahcentre.org">rabbi.telsner@yeshivahcentre.org</a></p>
<p>Dear Rabbi Telsner,<br />
I have a request.<br />
At the moment we all know there are serious issuesconfronting the<br />
community &amp; indeed the management.<br />
Would it not be appropriate at this time for you to give a drasha on<br />
Shabbat on what it speaks about in Sotah 7b.<br />
In my copy of Ein Yaakov this Gemara is headed:</p>
<p>THEY ADMITTED THEIR WRONGDOING.</p>
<p>It  goes on to speak about &#8220;fessing up&#8221; &amp; how that produces the best<br />
outcome,</p>
<p>gut Shabbat</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Bruce J. Cooke<br />
PO Box 1136<br />
Elsternwick 3185</p>
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		By: ben gershon		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/silent-no-more/#comment-168566</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ben gershon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 07:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[show me the money  for compensation

ben]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>show me the money  for compensation</p>
<p>ben</p>
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