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		By: DAVID SINGER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2022 11:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621417&quot;&gt;Andria Spindel&lt;/a&gt;.

Andria

If they don&#039;t want to take the money - what would you do then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621417">Andria Spindel</a>.</p>
<p>Andria</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t want to take the money &#8211; what would you do then.</p>
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		By: DAVID SINGER		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621445</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAVID SINGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2022 11:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621416&quot;&gt;Andria Spindel&lt;/a&gt;.

The peace treaty between Jordan and Israel has been in force since 1994 - and has survived many events that could have seen it torn up. Yet it has survived and will continue to do so.. 

Jordan is certainly less hostile by light years to the PLO  which pays money to its citizens who kill and maim Jews.  

Offering money to West Bank Arabs to move to Jordan or elsewhere is a proposal that has been made and could be part of any negotiations between Israel and Jordan. However any such proposal should be on a purely voluntary basis. Forcing West Bank Arabs to move is not acceptable in my opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621416">Andria Spindel</a>.</p>
<p>The peace treaty between Jordan and Israel has been in force since 1994 &#8211; and has survived many events that could have seen it torn up. Yet it has survived and will continue to do so.. </p>
<p>Jordan is certainly less hostile by light years to the PLO  which pays money to its citizens who kill and maim Jews.  </p>
<p>Offering money to West Bank Arabs to move to Jordan or elsewhere is a proposal that has been made and could be part of any negotiations between Israel and Jordan. However any such proposal should be on a purely voluntary basis. Forcing West Bank Arabs to move is not acceptable in my opinion.</p>
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		By: Andria Spindel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andria Spindel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621393&quot;&gt;david baden&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Jordan should be responsible for its former citizens and should treat the Palestinian Arabs in Jordan much better than they do, but as with all the surrounding ARab countries,they don&#039;t want them. It would however be the most logical solution, fund the exodus of those who hate Israel to go to Jordan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621393">david baden</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Jordan should be responsible for its former citizens and should treat the Palestinian Arabs in Jordan much better than they do, but as with all the surrounding ARab countries,they don&#8217;t want them. It would however be the most logical solution, fund the exodus of those who hate Israel to go to Jordan.</p>
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		By: Andria Spindel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andria Spindel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621401&quot;&gt;DAVID SINGER&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t see Jordan under the current regime as a safe bet for Israel. The King is increasingly saying hostile things against Israel, and it is not currently welcoming Palestinian Arabs. It maybe a better solution to avoid yet another Arab country but it is no less hostile than the PA, and it is armed. If Jordan is Palestine, which I agree is true, then what about offering money to Arabs to move there? That plan  has also been proposed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621401">DAVID SINGER</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Jordan under the current regime as a safe bet for Israel. The King is increasingly saying hostile things against Israel, and it is not currently welcoming Palestinian Arabs. It maybe a better solution to avoid yet another Arab country but it is no less hostile than the PA, and it is armed. If Jordan is Palestine, which I agree is true, then what about offering money to Arabs to move there? That plan  has also been proposed.</p>
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		By: DAVID SINGER		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAVID SINGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621393&quot;&gt;david baden&lt;/a&gt;.

Under any agreement with Israel - at least 95%  of the Arab population living in Judea and Samaria would once again become Jordanian citizens - as occurred between 1950 and 1988.

The beauty of the Saudi plan is that no one - Arab or Jew - would have to move from his present home in Judea and Samaria.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621393">david baden</a>.</p>
<p>Under any agreement with Israel &#8211; at least 95%  of the Arab population living in Judea and Samaria would once again become Jordanian citizens &#8211; as occurred between 1950 and 1988.</p>
<p>The beauty of the Saudi plan is that no one &#8211; Arab or Jew &#8211; would have to move from his present home in Judea and Samaria.</p>
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		By: DAVID SINGER		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAVID SINGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621397&quot;&gt;Andria Spindel&lt;/a&gt;.

Israel is seeking a solution to a conflict that has now lasted 100 years. 

To reach an agreement - one unfortunately has to make concessions.

Israel welcomed the Trump Plan which called for a Palestinian State in Judea and Samaria..

This Saudi solution denies a third state is necessary in the area

It needs to be seriously addressed to avoid any repeats of the past abuses you have listed...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621397">Andria Spindel</a>.</p>
<p>Israel is seeking a solution to a conflict that has now lasted 100 years. </p>
<p>To reach an agreement &#8211; one unfortunately has to make concessions.</p>
<p>Israel welcomed the Trump Plan which called for a Palestinian State in Judea and Samaria..</p>
<p>This Saudi solution denies a third state is necessary in the area</p>
<p>It needs to be seriously addressed to avoid any repeats of the past abuses you have listed&#8230;</p>
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		By: Andria Spindel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andria Spindel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621387&quot;&gt;DAVID SINGER&lt;/a&gt;.

There should certainly not be another Muslim antisemitic state in the Middle East that bans Jews. Jordan is still anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, and has an army, and we know not a warm relationship with Israel, but a &quot;cold&quot; treaty. They constantly change their view, have encouraged unrest on the Temple Mount, revoked some agreements such as on the island of peace, and not spoken up about the importance of the Abraham Accords; majority of their citizens are &quot;Palestinian&quot; and unhappy with their Hashemite rulers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621387">DAVID SINGER</a>.</p>
<p>There should certainly not be another Muslim antisemitic state in the Middle East that bans Jews. Jordan is still anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, and has an army, and we know not a warm relationship with Israel, but a &#8220;cold&#8221; treaty. They constantly change their view, have encouraged unrest on the Temple Mount, revoked some agreements such as on the island of peace, and not spoken up about the importance of the Abraham Accords; majority of their citizens are &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; and unhappy with their Hashemite rulers.</p>
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		By: Saoedische staatsomroep pleit voor koninkrijk Palestina - Likoed Nederland		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] had kunnen worden als het de Saoedische leiders tegen de haren in zou strijken. Sterker nog, de auteur heeft goede banden met de feitelijke machthebber, kroonprins Mohammed Bin Salman. Het lijkt daardoor een [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] had kunnen worden als het de Saoedische leiders tegen de haren in zou strijken. Sterker nog, de auteur heeft goede banden met de feitelijke machthebber, kroonprins Mohammed Bin Salman. Het lijkt daardoor een [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: david baden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david baden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621385&quot;&gt;Andria spindel&lt;/a&gt;.

YES ,Jordan deserted it&#039;s own citizens in 1967,and should be made to be responsible for them in Jordan itself which is a big and underdeveloped country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621385">Andria spindel</a>.</p>
<p>YES ,Jordan deserted it&#8217;s own citizens in 1967,and should be made to be responsible for them in Jordan itself which is a big and underdeveloped country.</p>
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		By: DAVID SINGER		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAVID SINGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621385&quot;&gt;Andria spindel&lt;/a&gt;.

Judea and Samaria are not currently &quot;part of Israel&quot;.
There is a need to give up part of Judea and Samaria if you want to resolve the 100 years old Jewish-Arab conflict. 
It is a question of how much you give up and who you give it to that is critical.
The obvious party for Israel to negotiate with on these issues is Jordan - for the following reasons:
1. Israel and Jordan are the two successor States to the 1922 Mandate for Palestine exercising sovereignty already in 95% of the territory of the Mandate
2. Israel and Jordan have enjoyed a signed peace treaty since 1994
3. Israel and Jordan can deal with allocating sovereignty in the remaining 5% of the Mandate territory by redrawing the international boundary between their two existing States.

Saudi Arabia is spot on with its call for the Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine to emerge from these negotiations. 

Calling for a third State between Israel and Jordan - as the UN has been urging for almost 25 years - has been a disaster and only prolonged and exacerbated the conflict. It is time for this proposed solution to be shredded and consigned to the dustbin of history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/saudi-arabia-tells-biden-un-no-state-between-israel-jordan/#comment-621385">Andria spindel</a>.</p>
<p>Judea and Samaria are not currently &#8220;part of Israel&#8221;.<br />
There is a need to give up part of Judea and Samaria if you want to resolve the 100 years old Jewish-Arab conflict.<br />
It is a question of how much you give up and who you give it to that is critical.<br />
The obvious party for Israel to negotiate with on these issues is Jordan &#8211; for the following reasons:<br />
1. Israel and Jordan are the two successor States to the 1922 Mandate for Palestine exercising sovereignty already in 95% of the territory of the Mandate<br />
2. Israel and Jordan have enjoyed a signed peace treaty since 1994<br />
3. Israel and Jordan can deal with allocating sovereignty in the remaining 5% of the Mandate territory by redrawing the international boundary between their two existing States.</p>
<p>Saudi Arabia is spot on with its call for the Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine to emerge from these negotiations. </p>
<p>Calling for a third State between Israel and Jordan &#8211; as the UN has been urging for almost 25 years &#8211; has been a disaster and only prolonged and exacerbated the conflict. It is time for this proposed solution to be shredded and consigned to the dustbin of history.</p>
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