Comments on: Rubenstein and Danby join the Fairfax Fray

By: Shingo

Shingo — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:10:25 +0000

In reply to Rami. "The most well known was their nonsense accusations which they made in July 2010 which unravelled in a few day, much to the embarresment of the Haaretz paper which printed the allegations of soldiers’misconduct.." What specific allegations are you referring to and how were they unravelled?

By: Shingo

Shingo — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 02:48:37 +0000

In reply to Raoul.

@ Raoul – If you can not refute the actual arguments with factual statements, why not bite your tongue next time?

What facts have Lamm, Danby and Rubenstein presented?

By: Shingo

Shingo — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 02:46:33 +0000

In reply to Benseon Apple. May I ask how being a l left-wing organisation is supoed tobe a valid criticism, especially seeing as anyone to the left of Avigdor Liberman is considered left wing these days?

By: Otto Waldmann

Otto Waldmann — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 22:44:11 +0000

You get luminaries like this bloke, or whatever it may be, Wilfred, rocking into a Jewish site and vomiting stuf like the Jews ” muzzling” the media. If only, you inbred aka Ben and Co. !
Australian media or any other is completely free of ny interference. SMH/Age have been enjoyig provoking Jewish reaction with impunity, giving solace, comfort and support to all the Bens, Wilfreds and all those one name creatures.
And while at it, yes, Wifred aka Ben, Clive etc. you are so right. Israel and its IDF are a criminal lot, unlike the peace-loving palestinians who would die to become martyrs of love, compassion, humanity, two-state solutions, all with humous and taboulli on side. Families of peaceful palestinians adorn their walls with portraits of loved ones who managed to murder as many Jews as possible so that no less than 28 virgins introduce them “afterwards” to the delights of kamasutra. What an ideal !!! And you, Wilfred seem to join in the same intellectual carnival of carnivorous feasts pretending to introduce “reason” into your rodent existence.

By: Raoul

Raoul — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:28:56 +0000

In reply to Wilfred.

@ Wilfred – If Messr Lamm, Danby and Rubenstein were armchair Zionists; applying similar ‘logic’ what would that make your own good self? An armchair Hamas activist perhaps?

If you can not refute the actual arguments with factual statements, why not bite your tongue next time? IMHO these cheap pot shots from the left, always trying to hit the man instead of the ball, are so a-penny-a-dozen.

By: Rami

Rami — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:56:08 +0000

In reply to Ben. Very nice Ben. Can the 'Independent 'verify those reports? Has it passed its proof to the Israeli authorities? Danby and Rubenstein are are objecting to the ;BTS's non-factual reports. Stop hiding behind the 'Independent'and make your vase about this issue and this dishonest organization.. Haven't seen you objecting to the horrors happening in Syria either. Maybe because Jews are not involved.

By: michael

michael — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:15:10 +0000

Thank You Danny and Coiin for standing up for the majority of Jews in Australia that support Israel.

The Palestinians are very lucky to have the left-wing Progressive Jews here in Australia as their cheer leaders.
Never mind Israel may not be winning the PR war the main thing is Israelies are leading the Western world in most fields whilst the Palestinians and most of their brother and sisters still live in the dark ages.

By: Rami

Rami — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:02:58 +0000

Wilfrid, I am an Israeli who served for 20 years in the IDF and the IDF reserves. Breaking the Silence is an organization, supported by all sorts of European organizations to spread lies about the IDF. They have been caught out many times. The most well known was their nonsense accusations which they made in July 2010 which unravelled in a few day, much to the embarresment of the Haaretz paper which printed the allegations of soldiers’misconduct.. They do not bring their accusations to the Israeli authorities, neither do they give names, places or specific dates of the incidents they claim to have happened. rather, they go to countries outside Israel to spread their bile.

By: Benseon Apple

Benseon Apple — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:27:31 +0000

Wilfred:

I am an Israeli citizen, formerly of Sydney.

I concur 100% with Messrs Lamm, Danby and Rubenstein on this issue. BtS is an avowedly left-wing organisation that seeks to undermine the Jewish and democratic character of Israel in its attempts to legitimise all aspects of the Palestinian narrative. In this regard it takes highly selective interviews with unnamed people who are allegedly former soldiers in the IDF. The tales they tell are highly unlikely but, even if true, do not represent the norm for the IDF as a whole (as so cogently pointed out by Rubenstein).

Lamm, Danby and Rubenstein may well be armchair Zionists, but the vast majority of us Israelis (many of whom are expat Aussies to boot!) share their views and thank them for speaking out on this important issue.

By: Ben

Ben — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:44:45 +0000

Interesting, almost a verbatims rehash of Lam’s staements. So Israel can hide behind the bloodshed in Syria ? And The independent in Uk carried a even more detailed report with names, places and dates. Don’t see Rubenstien and Danby objecting to PR fluff being published about Israel. So what is their objection to factual reprots ?