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		By: Ben Eleijah		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27538</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Eleijah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Israel offerd 90 per cent of the west Banketc etc. Not a shred of documents to show it and actions speak louder than words. Israel is building settlements to cut of Jerusalem and  water sources from Palestine. The closes this claim comes to the truth was in Ehud Barak&#039;s &quot;generous offer&quot;. Which has been exposed in earlier comments.

As the wrietr said Palestinians lived with Jordanian passports - Israel can follow Jordan&#039;s example and stop the demand for Palestine by giving them Israeli passports. But then that will not suit xenophobia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Israel offerd 90 per cent of the west Banketc etc. Not a shred of documents to show it and actions speak louder than words. Israel is building settlements to cut of Jerusalem and  water sources from Palestine. The closes this claim comes to the truth was in Ehud Barak&#8217;s &#8220;generous offer&#8221;. Which has been exposed in earlier comments.</p>
<p>As the wrietr said Palestinians lived with Jordanian passports &#8211; Israel can follow Jordan&#8217;s example and stop the demand for Palestine by giving them Israeli passports. But then that will not suit xenophobia.</p>
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		By: Paul Winter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-26645&quot;&gt;Paul Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

A quick search reveals that Clinton and her boss repudiated the Bush/Sharon letters.

See: Israelnationalnews 6.6.09
         The Algemainer 3.3.12 interview of Eugene Kontorovich
         Commentary 12.6.10

The issue is whether Sharon did the right thing in withdrawing from Gaza. Hamas attacks against which he was warned show he was wrong. The repudiation of the letters confirms that.

Could you please refer me to an item which verifies your assertion that Netanyahu stated that the Bush/Sharon letters had not been repudiated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-26645">Paul Winter</a>.</p>
<p>A quick search reveals that Clinton and her boss repudiated the Bush/Sharon letters.</p>
<p>See: Israelnationalnews 6.6.09<br />
         The Algemainer 3.3.12 interview of Eugene Kontorovich<br />
         Commentary 12.6.10</p>
<p>The issue is whether Sharon did the right thing in withdrawing from Gaza. Hamas attacks against which he was warned show he was wrong. The repudiation of the letters confirms that.</p>
<p>Could you please refer me to an item which verifies your assertion that Netanyahu stated that the Bush/Sharon letters had not been repudiated.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27307&quot;&gt;david&lt;/a&gt;.

Ben

Since Israel has already offered to leave more than 90% of the West Bank  - your remarks are a load of nonsense.

Believe it or not Jrws lived in the West Bank before they were kicked out in the 1948 War. 

The Arabs seemingly never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.Their  insistence on all or nothing at all  has been their downfall in 1937, 1947, 1948-1967,  2000 and 2008. They never seem to learn - and apparently neither do you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27307">david</a>.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
<p>Since Israel has already offered to leave more than 90% of the West Bank  &#8211; your remarks are a load of nonsense.</p>
<p>Believe it or not Jrws lived in the West Bank before they were kicked out in the 1948 War. </p>
<p>The Arabs seemingly never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.Their  insistence on all or nothing at all  has been their downfall in 1937, 1947, 1948-1967,  2000 and 2008. They never seem to learn &#8211; and apparently neither do you.</p>
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		By: Ben Eleijah		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27324</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Eleijah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27307&quot;&gt;david&lt;/a&gt;.

The position cannot be replicated because israel has built settlements and cornered the water resources there. It will not leave as seen from the latest plan to surround Jerusalem with Israeli settlements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27307">david</a>.</p>
<p>The position cannot be replicated because israel has built settlements and cornered the water resources there. It will not leave as seen from the latest plan to surround Jerusalem with Israeli settlements.</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27218&quot;&gt;Ben Eleijah&lt;/a&gt;.

Ben

Sorry to disagree.

The reason is they decided to unify the West Bank with Transjordan to form the state of Jordan in 1950 and become Jordanian citizens with Jordanian passports and accepted the rule of Jordanian law in the West Bank.

Had Jordan not entered the Six Day War against Israel&#039;s urgings then that would have still been the position today.

There was no talk of a Palestinian state between Israel and Jordan between 1948-1967. Indeed the PLO - formed in 1964 - did not claim sovereignty in the West Bank and Gaza in opposition to Jordan&#039;s occupation over the previous 14 years. .

Now Israel&#039;s refusal to meet the PLO&#039;s demand to sovereignty in every square metre of these areas has become a &quot;threat to world peace&quot; and &quot;the most intractable problem in international diplomacy.&quot;

Give us a break. 

The position as it existed in 1967 cannot possibly be replicated in 2012.

However Jordan and Israel can negotiate to return as much of the West Bank to Jordanian control as is possible given the current realities on the ground and having regard to Israel&#039;s security situation.

That is the only possible path to even beginning to resolve the Jewish-Arab conflict.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27218">Ben Eleijah</a>.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
<p>Sorry to disagree.</p>
<p>The reason is they decided to unify the West Bank with Transjordan to form the state of Jordan in 1950 and become Jordanian citizens with Jordanian passports and accepted the rule of Jordanian law in the West Bank.</p>
<p>Had Jordan not entered the Six Day War against Israel&#8217;s urgings then that would have still been the position today.</p>
<p>There was no talk of a Palestinian state between Israel and Jordan between 1948-1967. Indeed the PLO &#8211; formed in 1964 &#8211; did not claim sovereignty in the West Bank and Gaza in opposition to Jordan&#8217;s occupation over the previous 14 years. .</p>
<p>Now Israel&#8217;s refusal to meet the PLO&#8217;s demand to sovereignty in every square metre of these areas has become a &#8220;threat to world peace&#8221; and &#8220;the most intractable problem in international diplomacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Give us a break. </p>
<p>The position as it existed in 1967 cannot possibly be replicated in 2012.</p>
<p>However Jordan and Israel can negotiate to return as much of the West Bank to Jordanian control as is possible given the current realities on the ground and having regard to Israel&#8217;s security situation.</p>
<p>That is the only possible path to even beginning to resolve the Jewish-Arab conflict.</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-26963&quot;&gt;Paul Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

Paul

What then would have made Netanyahu make the statement he did to the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee in August 2011 confirming Obama had in effect ratified the terms of Bush&#039;s letter?

Netanyahu has plenty of political enemies.  I have been unable to find any of them accusing him of lying or misleading the Knesset Committee or any denials from the State Department on what surely must be a very sensitive issue.

Would appreciate your directing me to any sources to support your view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-26963">Paul Winter</a>.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>What then would have made Netanyahu make the statement he did to the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee in August 2011 confirming Obama had in effect ratified the terms of Bush&#8217;s letter?</p>
<p>Netanyahu has plenty of political enemies.  I have been unable to find any of them accusing him of lying or misleading the Knesset Committee or any denials from the State Department on what surely must be a very sensitive issue.</p>
<p>Would appreciate your directing me to any sources to support your view.</p>
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		By: Ben Eleijah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Eleijah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 12:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27156&quot;&gt;david&lt;/a&gt;.

one reason is they were were left alone. While Israel places them under military occupation, plants armed violent settlers in their mids and builds exclusive settlements, roads, check points, barrier and agricultural settlements in the West Bank.

Barak&#039;s &quot;generous offer&quot; was to re-name Abu Dis East Jerusalem, keep parts of the future stae under indefenite Israeli control, and allow a state that is de-militarised, has no control over its borders, air space and communications - a bantustan. And Sharon ran a campaign against Barak for this and won an election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27156">david</a>.</p>
<p>one reason is they were were left alone. While Israel places them under military occupation, plants armed violent settlers in their mids and builds exclusive settlements, roads, check points, barrier and agricultural settlements in the West Bank.</p>
<p>Barak&#8217;s &#8220;generous offer&#8221; was to re-name Abu Dis East Jerusalem, keep parts of the future stae under indefenite Israeli control, and allow a state that is de-militarised, has no control over its borders, air space and communications &#8211; a bantustan. And Sharon ran a campaign against Barak for this and won an election.</p>
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		By: Paul Winter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-26963&quot;&gt;Paul Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

I am right.

I cannot speak for Netanyahu.]]></description>
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<p>I am right.</p>
<p>I cannot speak for Netanyahu.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27118&quot;&gt;Ben Eleijah&lt;/a&gt;.

Ben

Remember the good old days when not one Jew lived in the West Bank and East Jerusalem between 1948-1967 after the Jordanians had driven all the Jews out of their homes and tried to erase any traces of the existence Jews ever having lived there? (Also similarly tried after Israel&#039;s disengagement from Gaza in 2005.)

Can you point to one action by the Palestinian Arabs to do anything during those 19 years to create their own independent state in the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its capital?

Can you explain why they refused offers in 2000 and 2008 to grant them sovereignty in 90% or more of the West Bank with a capital in East Jerusalem?

He who tries to eat the whole pie is bound to end up with indigestion.

Once again the Palestinian Arabs are trying to bite off more than they can chew. Their current behaviour only serves to confirm that they indeed never miss an opportunity  to miss an opportunity. 

Repudiating the Oslo Accords was the dumbest action they could have taken.

That of course is their prerogative and that is why their birth certificate is going to state &quot;Stillborn&quot;.

Israel and Jordan are now the only parties capable of negotiating and allocating the disposition of sovereignty in the West Bank between their respective states..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-27118">Ben Eleijah</a>.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
<p>Remember the good old days when not one Jew lived in the West Bank and East Jerusalem between 1948-1967 after the Jordanians had driven all the Jews out of their homes and tried to erase any traces of the existence Jews ever having lived there? (Also similarly tried after Israel&#8217;s disengagement from Gaza in 2005.)</p>
<p>Can you point to one action by the Palestinian Arabs to do anything during those 19 years to create their own independent state in the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its capital?</p>
<p>Can you explain why they refused offers in 2000 and 2008 to grant them sovereignty in 90% or more of the West Bank with a capital in East Jerusalem?</p>
<p>He who tries to eat the whole pie is bound to end up with indigestion.</p>
<p>Once again the Palestinian Arabs are trying to bite off more than they can chew. Their current behaviour only serves to confirm that they indeed never miss an opportunity  to miss an opportunity. </p>
<p>Repudiating the Oslo Accords was the dumbest action they could have taken.</p>
<p>That of course is their prerogative and that is why their birth certificate is going to state &#8220;Stillborn&#8221;.</p>
<p>Israel and Jordan are now the only parties capable of negotiating and allocating the disposition of sovereignty in the West Bank between their respective states..</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/palestine-sharons-gaza-gambit-brilliant-move-or-tactical-disaster/#comment-26963&quot;&gt;Paul Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

Paul

If you are right then why did Netanyahu claim that Obama had ratified the letter in August 2011?]]></description>
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<p>Paul</p>
<p>If you are right then why did Netanyahu claim that Obama had ratified the letter in August 2011?</p>
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