Liat

Yes it seems like a cop out – but that is what politicians try to do when they have no answers.

Could you please send copy of your email(s) to Di Natale and Rhiannon to dsinger2000@gmail.com

Today I received an email from BW as follows:

‘Apologies for the delayed response.
We accept that you have legitimate political disagreements with the booklet, however all the content is within Greens policy.

Regarding your claims of factual inaccuracy, we would be happy to review any sources you can provide. I would say, however, that the five points you have listed under ‘omission of facts’ in your original email are essentially political arguments.’
Regards,

What a dismissive cop-out this is. No. 1, it’s up to them to do their own research adequately in the first place (I’ve already mentioned the fact in my original email that the maps had been declared inaccurate by McGraw Hill and publication withdrawn, and trashed.) And No. 2, there is no response to my complaint of taxpayer’s money being spent on such a publication. It’s news to me that Ms. Rhiannon’s own personal obsession and hate-fest is now Greens policy – my, things do move fast.

I am open to your suggestions as to my next move, David. Although, you would have to view my original email to Lee Rhiannon first I would think.

You asked : What is the situation with the Conservatives in regard to the father/mother issue? http://www.cjvoices.org/article/revisiting-patrilineal-descent-conversion

Thanks for your comments Liat. It’s a sad situation that needs addressing.

I received a response to my email to Lee Rhiannon re the Greens leaflet/booklet today, from Bjorn Wallin, Campaigns & Policy Adviser. It says, ‘Thanks for the feedback on the booklet. I will forward it to Senator Rhiannon and she will consider it shortly.’

If it were not four weeks before an election, most probably I would not have received this. I do urge others to take advantage of this pre-election situation and voice their objection/concerns on the matter. Be sure to send Richard Di Natale a copy of anything you write. I have not yet had a response from his office.

I was not sure whether to air on J-Wire my particular email to Rhiannon, so that others could see my particular take on the matter. Thought that perhaps at this stage I should wait for a reply.

I have friends, both born of Orthodox parents, and both with considerable loss of family in the Holocaust, who married in a Progressive Jewish service, and are in the ridiculous position whereby their three children (now adults) are thereby considered illegitimate halachically! Really, more needs to be done to rectify the situation of Jewish marriage and recognition of Jewish identity, particularly in Israel.

I have another friend who is an older man and an artist, who has constant awareness, and yearning, in regard to his Jewish identity through his father. On approaching an Orthodox Rabbi in Melbourne, he was told it was best to forget about it under the circumstances. He hasn’t therefore pursued it formally, but his heart and soul will never forget about it.

Hi Liat

Are you aware that in the Progressive/Reform branches of Judaism we totally accept a Jews patrilineal or matrilineal decent? Sexism shouldn’t play a part in today’s Judaism as it’s from a time when Jewish law accepted discrimination against men and/or women and/or children and/or slaves and/or homosexuals etc etc .

If a adult child has a Jewish father (and they identify as a Jew) how can we justifiably discriminate against them or their father. I feel for the Othodox Rabbis as they are caught between a rock and a hard Halachah.

I believe that the majority of ‘orthodoxy affiliated’ Jews wouldn’t necessary agree with their Rabbis who about holding onto blatant discrimination.

So, it’s time for Jews who affiliate with Orthodoxy (in reality some are happy to eat anything and shop on Shabbat) to look deeply into their hearts and CHALLENGE their Rabbis with their beliefs on these matters. If not the chasm between orthodoxy and progressive Judaism will just keep getting bigger and bigger. Alarm bells should be ringing. As for Rhiannon who cares if she’s a Jew. Either way we can just add her to the list of sad and misguided ones.

Because they are greens. I would not be looking for any excuses such as anti Zionism is not the same as antis emotion etc. it is all BS. The reason is simple – they simply hate all Jews no matter where these Jews live. Just the fact that we exist gives them a nightmare. And for all Jews haters around the world it does not matter what Israel does or doesn’t Israel is always wrong. So we should sue them as often as possible. At least we should punish them financially. I am just surprised why they have not been sued

I do not believe she can – but others with different opinions might disagree.

The issue here is that politicians seeking your vote will not try to deceive and mislead you.

I have pointed out the deceptive and misleading nature of the pamphlet and booklet authorised and printed by the Greens and Senator Rhiannon.

From my perspective this calls for the Greens leader to shred these documents.

The material contained in these documents has been brought to his attention.

He needs to respond without delay.

Ignoring the electorate will not send a positive signal either.

If Senator Di Natale remains silent – the voters will have the opportunity on 2 July to not vote for the Greens because its foreign policy has been based on deceptive and misleading material contained in these documents.

McGraw Hill maintained its integrity by trashing a textbook when its attention was drawn to four inaccurate maps that also appear in the Greens booklet.

If it is good enough for McGraw Hill – why would the Greens refuse to do likewise?