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		By: Marie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I began to watch Q&#038;A with George Pell and Richard Dawkins.  After perhaps ten minutes I switched off.  George Pell could not answer a question put to him by Richard Dawkins, about where did Jesus go after he was crucified.  
But I want to say this.
Father Adam and Mother Eve were our first parents on this earth.  They had children and grandchildren and eventually Abraham, Issac and Jacob were born.  Jacob became the father of the 12 tribes of Israel.   All his children, of all tribes, were intelligent, just like we are now.    Jesus was born through the tribe of Judah, his mother was Mary, a descendant of King David and his earthly father, his step father, Joseph was also a descendant of King David.  Had the Kingdom of the Jewish tribe continued,  Joseph and Mary would have been a king and queen of the Jews.  Pilot had the words&#039; King of the Jews&#039; placed on the cross, and that was a literal meaning, Jesus was the King of the Jews.  But Jesus was also the Saviour of the whole world, to every man, woman and child that has ever lived, is living and who will yet live.    The comments that the Jews were shepherds,  these shepherds,yes they were Jews, but their living was being a shepherd.  That did not stigmatise them to being &#039;idiots&#039;.  They were very special people to be told and to hear the choir of Heaven singing, announcing the birth of the Saviour and Redeemer of the World.   Coming ahead, there is going to be a huge third world war and it is that time that most countries of the world will be out to finally destroy the Jews, and a lot will be annilated, but then the promise that Jesus Christ is going to stand on the Mount of Olives, a huge earthquake will happen and the remaining Jews will see that Him, recognise Him by the wounds in his hands and feet, accept Him as their Saviour, and they will escape in the valley the earthquake has made for them.  And then, it is going to be on for the end fight for the Saviour&#039;s Millenial reign.  
We are all God&#039;s children.  For those that hate, they will want to look hell in the eyes rather than the steady gaze of the all knowing Saviour as we stand at the Judgement Bar.  As He said, the greatest commandment is to love Him and the second is to love all men- and women.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began to watch Q&amp;A with George Pell and Richard Dawkins.  After perhaps ten minutes I switched off.  George Pell could not answer a question put to him by Richard Dawkins, about where did Jesus go after he was crucified.<br />
But I want to say this.<br />
Father Adam and Mother Eve were our first parents on this earth.  They had children and grandchildren and eventually Abraham, Issac and Jacob were born.  Jacob became the father of the 12 tribes of Israel.   All his children, of all tribes, were intelligent, just like we are now.    Jesus was born through the tribe of Judah, his mother was Mary, a descendant of King David and his earthly father, his step father, Joseph was also a descendant of King David.  Had the Kingdom of the Jewish tribe continued,  Joseph and Mary would have been a king and queen of the Jews.  Pilot had the words&#8217; King of the Jews&#8217; placed on the cross, and that was a literal meaning, Jesus was the King of the Jews.  But Jesus was also the Saviour of the whole world, to every man, woman and child that has ever lived, is living and who will yet live.    The comments that the Jews were shepherds,  these shepherds,yes they were Jews, but their living was being a shepherd.  That did not stigmatise them to being &#8216;idiots&#8217;.  They were very special people to be told and to hear the choir of Heaven singing, announcing the birth of the Saviour and Redeemer of the World.   Coming ahead, there is going to be a huge third world war and it is that time that most countries of the world will be out to finally destroy the Jews, and a lot will be annilated, but then the promise that Jesus Christ is going to stand on the Mount of Olives, a huge earthquake will happen and the remaining Jews will see that Him, recognise Him by the wounds in his hands and feet, accept Him as their Saviour, and they will escape in the valley the earthquake has made for them.  And then, it is going to be on for the end fight for the Saviour&#8217;s Millenial reign.<br />
We are all God&#8217;s children.  For those that hate, they will want to look hell in the eyes rather than the steady gaze of the all knowing Saviour as we stand at the Judgement Bar.  As He said, the greatest commandment is to love Him and the second is to love all men- and women.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very disappointed with George Pell&#039;s comments....I did not watch the programme but I can imagine the humiliation he caused himself amongst the viewers of Q &#038; A and the catholic church.Deserves a full investigation if this is his prophecy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very disappointed with George Pell&#8217;s comments&#8230;.I did not watch the programme but I can imagine the humiliation he caused himself amongst the viewers of Q &amp; A and the catholic church.Deserves a full investigation if this is his prophecy.</p>
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		By: Liat Nagar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Ben,
I am sorry for your sadness and hope that you can find some solace in the fact that so many years after the tragic and heinous event that was the Holocaust, there are those who will firmly challenge anti-semitism and not allow it its way.  For in doing that we can prevent another Holocaust and we can also prevent all the other acts that have been perpetrated against Jews because they were Jews.
Sincerely, Liat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ben,<br />
I am sorry for your sadness and hope that you can find some solace in the fact that so many years after the tragic and heinous event that was the Holocaust, there are those who will firmly challenge anti-semitism and not allow it its way.  For in doing that we can prevent another Holocaust and we can also prevent all the other acts that have been perpetrated against Jews because they were Jews.<br />
Sincerely, Liat.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15713&quot;&gt;Liat Nagar&lt;/a&gt;.

Liat, I agree that the Jewish News has a perfect right, even a duty, to report on the Pell kerfuffle, and this they did. But there was not a word about the context of Pell&#039;s thoughtless remarks - mainly the kind of programme he appeared in and who he was up against. The programme&#039;s organizers clearly aimed at a sort of genteel confrontation, and they chose well. So your &quot;surely at least&quot; remains hanging in the air!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15713">Liat Nagar</a>.</p>
<p>Liat, I agree that the Jewish News has a perfect right, even a duty, to report on the Pell kerfuffle, and this they did. But there was not a word about the context of Pell&#8217;s thoughtless remarks &#8211; mainly the kind of programme he appeared in and who he was up against. The programme&#8217;s organizers clearly aimed at a sort of genteel confrontation, and they chose well. So your &#8220;surely at least&#8221; remains hanging in the air!</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15727</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 02:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15715&quot;&gt;Lionel&lt;/a&gt;.

Let me say this, It was only John XX111, who opened his heart and his hands to the Jews with no reservations or ulterior motives, long before the Holocaust. He later played a pivotal role in saving thousands of lives.
His pro Jewish statements causing  all manner of theological implications. 
It was he who had the 1960 Good Friday prayer with the offending word &#039;perfidious&#039; removed.
During his Papacy, his pro Jewish statements causing all manner of theological implactions.
He is one unequaled, much loved and mourned at his death by his Jewish brothers and sisters.
His Prayer of Repentance is never recognised either, many Catholics unaware of it&#039;s existance.
Here it is, for those still not familiar with it.
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&#039;We recognise today, that many centuries of blindness have veiled our eyes, so that we no longer see the beauty of Your chosen people and no longer recognise the features of our first born brother.
We now know, that the mark of Cain is on our forehead.
Over the course of centuries, our brother Abel has lain in the blood we have spilled and has wept tears which we have caused, because we forgot Your love.
Forgive us for this curse, which we unjustly placed on the name of the Jews.
Forgive us, for crucifying You a second time.
For we knew not what we were doing.
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Their lies our true inheritance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15715">Lionel</a>.</p>
<p>Let me say this, It was only John XX111, who opened his heart and his hands to the Jews with no reservations or ulterior motives, long before the Holocaust. He later played a pivotal role in saving thousands of lives.<br />
His pro Jewish statements causing  all manner of theological implications.<br />
It was he who had the 1960 Good Friday prayer with the offending word &#8216;perfidious&#8217; removed.<br />
During his Papacy, his pro Jewish statements causing all manner of theological implactions.<br />
He is one unequaled, much loved and mourned at his death by his Jewish brothers and sisters.<br />
His Prayer of Repentance is never recognised either, many Catholics unaware of it&#8217;s existance.<br />
Here it is, for those still not familiar with it.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
&#8216;We recognise today, that many centuries of blindness have veiled our eyes, so that we no longer see the beauty of Your chosen people and no longer recognise the features of our first born brother.<br />
We now know, that the mark of Cain is on our forehead.<br />
Over the course of centuries, our brother Abel has lain in the blood we have spilled and has wept tears which we have caused, because we forgot Your love.<br />
Forgive us for this curse, which we unjustly placed on the name of the Jews.<br />
Forgive us, for crucifying You a second time.<br />
For we knew not what we were doing.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Their lies our true inheritance.</p>
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		By: Lionel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15704&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not true to say &#039;nothing has changed&#039;. 
The late Pope John Paul went to Yad Vashem.  
i wish my late Father z&#039;l could have seen the live telecast  - he would not have believed his eyes, but it happened. And by doing this John Paul  de-legitimised centuries of Polish Catholic anti-semitism that had inflicted so much pain on my ancestors.
i wrote to Pell when Pope Benedict lifted  the excommunication of bishops who were members of the Society of St Pius X, and mentioend the anti-Semitic remarks of one of those bishops, Richard Williamson.

Pell wrote [&#038; i copy this without his permission]:
 
Like you, I was deeply dismayed to learn of Bishop Williamson&#039;s comments, which attempted to deny or minimise the horror and magnitude of the Shoah. Anti-Semitism is always repugnant and offensive, and Holocaust denial is one of the more particularly vile forms it takes. It has no place in the Catholic church, or in the heart of Christians. 
 
The Society of St Pius X is a schismatic group not in communion with the Catholic church. Its bishops were appointed by its founder in contravention of Church law and in defiance of Pope John Paul II. For this reason they were automatically excommunicated, and it is this penalty which has now been lifted by Pope Benedict XVI in an effort to re-open dialogue with the members of the Society. 
 
The lifting of the excommunication does not reconcile the Society of Pope Pius X to the Catholic Church, or legitimise the appointment of its bishops. I would anticipate that if there was to be a formal reconciliation with the Society of St Pius X, those returning would be required to accept the teachings of the Second Vatican Council, including the teaching on religious freedom and the condemnation of anti-Semitism. 
 
On January 28, Pope Benedict spoke of the evil of the Holocaust, which saw &quot;the brutal massacre of millions of Jews, innocent victims of a blind racial and religious hate.&quot;
 
As the Zenit news service (http://www.zenit.org/article-24940?l=english  ) reported: 
 
The Pope expressed his &quot;hope that the memory of  the Shoah moves humanity to reflect on the unpredictable power of evil when it  conquers the human heart,&quot; and that the Holocaust &quot;be for everyone a warning  against forgetting, against negating or reductionism, because violence  committed against even one human being is violence against all.&quot;

&quot;No  man is an island,&quot; Benedict XVI continued, referring to the English Poet John  Donne (1571-1631).

&quot;May the Shoah teach especially, as much the old  generations as the new ones, that only the tiring path of listening and  dialogue, of love and pardon, leads peoples, cultures and religions of the  world to the desired encounter of fraternity and peace in the world,&quot; he said.  &quot;May violence never again humiliate the dignity of man!&quot;
Pope Benedict speaks for all Catholics with these words. 
 
yours sincerely, 
 
+George Cardinal Pell
ARCHBISHOP OF SYDNEY]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15704">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not true to say &#8216;nothing has changed&#8217;.<br />
The late Pope John Paul went to Yad Vashem.<br />
i wish my late Father z&#8217;l could have seen the live telecast  &#8211; he would not have believed his eyes, but it happened. And by doing this John Paul  de-legitimised centuries of Polish Catholic anti-semitism that had inflicted so much pain on my ancestors.<br />
i wrote to Pell when Pope Benedict lifted  the excommunication of bishops who were members of the Society of St Pius X, and mentioend the anti-Semitic remarks of one of those bishops, Richard Williamson.</p>
<p>Pell wrote [&amp; i copy this without his permission]:</p>
<p>Like you, I was deeply dismayed to learn of Bishop Williamson&#8217;s comments, which attempted to deny or minimise the horror and magnitude of the Shoah. Anti-Semitism is always repugnant and offensive, and Holocaust denial is one of the more particularly vile forms it takes. It has no place in the Catholic church, or in the heart of Christians. </p>
<p>The Society of St Pius X is a schismatic group not in communion with the Catholic church. Its bishops were appointed by its founder in contravention of Church law and in defiance of Pope John Paul II. For this reason they were automatically excommunicated, and it is this penalty which has now been lifted by Pope Benedict XVI in an effort to re-open dialogue with the members of the Society. </p>
<p>The lifting of the excommunication does not reconcile the Society of Pope Pius X to the Catholic Church, or legitimise the appointment of its bishops. I would anticipate that if there was to be a formal reconciliation with the Society of St Pius X, those returning would be required to accept the teachings of the Second Vatican Council, including the teaching on religious freedom and the condemnation of anti-Semitism. </p>
<p>On January 28, Pope Benedict spoke of the evil of the Holocaust, which saw &#8220;the brutal massacre of millions of Jews, innocent victims of a blind racial and religious hate.&#8221;</p>
<p>As the Zenit news service (<a href="http://www.zenit.org/article-24940?l=english" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.zenit.org/article-24940?l=english</a>  ) reported: </p>
<p>The Pope expressed his &#8220;hope that the memory of  the Shoah moves humanity to reflect on the unpredictable power of evil when it  conquers the human heart,&#8221; and that the Holocaust &#8220;be for everyone a warning  against forgetting, against negating or reductionism, because violence  committed against even one human being is violence against all.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No  man is an island,&#8221; Benedict XVI continued, referring to the English Poet John  Donne (1571-1631).</p>
<p>&#8220;May the Shoah teach especially, as much the old  generations as the new ones, that only the tiring path of listening and  dialogue, of love and pardon, leads peoples, cultures and religions of the  world to the desired encounter of fraternity and peace in the world,&#8221; he said.  &#8220;May violence never again humiliate the dignity of man!&#8221;<br />
Pope Benedict speaks for all Catholics with these words. </p>
<p>yours sincerely, </p>
<p>+George Cardinal Pell<br />
ARCHBISHOP OF SYDNEY</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15714</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel so terribly saddened and hurt. I too am suffering daily almost 70 years after the war!  My parents were Holocaust survivors, 2 very broken and dejected souls who were traumatised for the rest of their lives from the end of the war to their untimely deaths 25 years ago. My father was unable to work in his profession as a doctor after the war because he was so mentally affected by losing his parents who were burnt alive in their wooden synagogue by the Nazis, and the murder of 3 of his siblings, not to mention the affects of the Holocaust on the children of survivors such as myself. Yet, George Pell says the Germans suffered more than the Jews! I am reminded of the oft quoted line , &quot;some of my best friends are Jews&quot;, by people accused of making anti-semitic remarks. The Cardinal`s remarks about his feelings for Jews being on the public record need to be re-examined in the light of his remarks. Has Cardinal Pell ever visited the Sydney Jewish Museum or Yad Vashem or spoken to a Holocaust survivor? If his apology is sincere, he will need to do some of these latter things to show he is genuine. We are a small people numerically, it is true, with sadly having had few friends during the Holocaust, and, regretfully, few friends today! I am reminded of the bystanders who did little to nothing to help us then. With tears in my eyes, I am so saddened to think of the bystanders who are still with us today. Cardinal Pell needs to clarify himself and tell us truthfully where he stands in relation to the Jews!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel so terribly saddened and hurt. I too am suffering daily almost 70 years after the war!  My parents were Holocaust survivors, 2 very broken and dejected souls who were traumatised for the rest of their lives from the end of the war to their untimely deaths 25 years ago. My father was unable to work in his profession as a doctor after the war because he was so mentally affected by losing his parents who were burnt alive in their wooden synagogue by the Nazis, and the murder of 3 of his siblings, not to mention the affects of the Holocaust on the children of survivors such as myself. Yet, George Pell says the Germans suffered more than the Jews! I am reminded of the oft quoted line , &#8220;some of my best friends are Jews&#8221;, by people accused of making anti-semitic remarks. The Cardinal`s remarks about his feelings for Jews being on the public record need to be re-examined in the light of his remarks. Has Cardinal Pell ever visited the Sydney Jewish Museum or Yad Vashem or spoken to a Holocaust survivor? If his apology is sincere, he will need to do some of these latter things to show he is genuine. We are a small people numerically, it is true, with sadly having had few friends during the Holocaust, and, regretfully, few friends today! I am reminded of the bystanders who did little to nothing to help us then. With tears in my eyes, I am so saddened to think of the bystanders who are still with us today. Cardinal Pell needs to clarify himself and tell us truthfully where he stands in relation to the Jews!</p>
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		By: Liat Nagar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve,
re the &#039;Jewish News&#039;, obviously the main issue for them was the remarks Cardinal Pell made about the Jewish people; they wouldn&#039;t have bothered reporting on the show at all if not for that.  I haven&#039;t seen the AJN issue yet, but think it would have been more professional to at least mention the programme format and the participants by name before going on to their subject of interest - surely they at least did that?  I can&#039;t actually recall Richard Dawkins making any retorts to Pell&#039;s comments on Jews; Tony Jones supplied the interaction there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
re the &#8216;Jewish News&#8217;, obviously the main issue for them was the remarks Cardinal Pell made about the Jewish people; they wouldn&#8217;t have bothered reporting on the show at all if not for that.  I haven&#8217;t seen the AJN issue yet, but think it would have been more professional to at least mention the programme format and the participants by name before going on to their subject of interest &#8211; surely they at least did that?  I can&#8217;t actually recall Richard Dawkins making any retorts to Pell&#8217;s comments on Jews; Tony Jones supplied the interaction there.</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15702&quot;&gt;Vicki&lt;/a&gt;.

Vicki, thank you for that reinforcement.
I was reared as a child by the wonderful timbrel playing Sally&#039;s, and as I have mentioned elsewhere, on becoming a Catholic, it was my introduction to anti-semitism, damnation of the Masons, who were so good to us, and the issues of women in the church.
I was also shocked at the roll the Franciscans played in the withholding of whatever was due to the Holocaust survivors, not withstanding the few who assisted them in escaping from the Nazi&#039;s and rememered as Righteous among the Nations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/on-cardinal-george-pell/#comment-15702">Vicki</a>.</p>
<p>Vicki, thank you for that reinforcement.<br />
I was reared as a child by the wonderful timbrel playing Sally&#8217;s, and as I have mentioned elsewhere, on becoming a Catholic, it was my introduction to anti-semitism, damnation of the Masons, who were so good to us, and the issues of women in the church.<br />
I was also shocked at the roll the Franciscans played in the withholding of whatever was due to the Holocaust survivors, not withstanding the few who assisted them in escaping from the Nazi&#8217;s and rememered as Righteous among the Nations.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vicki,
I think your story of yourself as a child innocently drawing six-pointed stars is compelling and evocative, and, as a professional writer, would encourage you to write your book using the title you have already chosen so well.  This experience must indeed have been traumatic, which is why it&#039;s printed so indelibly on your brain and in your heart.  

Your astute questions relating to the Jews in biblical times are most pertinent to the discussion and it&#039;s a shame they could not have been put to Cardinal Pell.  It&#039;s true that he spent an inordinate amount of time speaking of the Greeks and Romans, the former in particular, in relation to the subject matter.  Again, it would have been interesting to explore further where this was coming from.  Possibly further evidence of civilisations other than Egyptian that towered over the Jews intellectually?  Pell needs to read &#039;The Gifts of the Jews:  How a tribe of desert nomads changed the way everyone thinks and feels&#039;, by Thomas Cahill, an Irish author who is not Jewish.  Cahill commences by saying, &quot;The Jews started it all  -  and by &quot;it&quot; I mean so many of the things we care about, the underlying values that make all of us, Jew and gentile, believer and atheist, tick.  Without the Jews, we would see the world through different eyes, hear with different ears, even feel with different feelings. ...//  Our history is replete with examples of those who have refused to see what the Jews are really about, who - through intellectual blindness, racial chauvinism, xenophobia, or just plain evil - have been unable to give this oddball tribe, this raggle-taggle band, this race of wanderers who are the progenitors of the Western world, their due.  Indeed, at the end of this bloodiest of centuries, we can all too easily look back on scenes of unthinkable horror perpetrated by those who would do anything rather than give the Jews their due.&quot;  Well, Cardinal Pell replaced the description &#039;raggle-taggle band&#039; with &#039;shepherds&#039; or &#039;this little or small people&#039; - trouble is he left it at that! 
Cahill goes on to elaborate these &#039;gifts of the Jews&#039;, and validate his elaboration.  The book is a Doubleday publication (imprint: Nan A. Talese), New York, 1998.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki,<br />
I think your story of yourself as a child innocently drawing six-pointed stars is compelling and evocative, and, as a professional writer, would encourage you to write your book using the title you have already chosen so well.  This experience must indeed have been traumatic, which is why it&#8217;s printed so indelibly on your brain and in your heart.  </p>
<p>Your astute questions relating to the Jews in biblical times are most pertinent to the discussion and it&#8217;s a shame they could not have been put to Cardinal Pell.  It&#8217;s true that he spent an inordinate amount of time speaking of the Greeks and Romans, the former in particular, in relation to the subject matter.  Again, it would have been interesting to explore further where this was coming from.  Possibly further evidence of civilisations other than Egyptian that towered over the Jews intellectually?  Pell needs to read &#8216;The Gifts of the Jews:  How a tribe of desert nomads changed the way everyone thinks and feels&#8217;, by Thomas Cahill, an Irish author who is not Jewish.  Cahill commences by saying, &#8220;The Jews started it all  &#8211;  and by &#8220;it&#8221; I mean so many of the things we care about, the underlying values that make all of us, Jew and gentile, believer and atheist, tick.  Without the Jews, we would see the world through different eyes, hear with different ears, even feel with different feelings. &#8230;//  Our history is replete with examples of those who have refused to see what the Jews are really about, who &#8211; through intellectual blindness, racial chauvinism, xenophobia, or just plain evil &#8211; have been unable to give this oddball tribe, this raggle-taggle band, this race of wanderers who are the progenitors of the Western world, their due.  Indeed, at the end of this bloodiest of centuries, we can all too easily look back on scenes of unthinkable horror perpetrated by those who would do anything rather than give the Jews their due.&#8221;  Well, Cardinal Pell replaced the description &#8216;raggle-taggle band&#8217; with &#8216;shepherds&#8217; or &#8216;this little or small people&#8217; &#8211; trouble is he left it at that!<br />
Cahill goes on to elaborate these &#8216;gifts of the Jews&#8217;, and validate his elaboration.  The book is a Doubleday publication (imprint: Nan A. Talese), New York, 1998.</p>
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