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		By: david singer		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david singer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281489&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Lynne for posting this link.

The author makes the following very relevant comment:
&quot;The fact Turkey has now taken the lead to speak for the Palestinians is rich with irony considering the Ottoman Turks colonized the Arabs for over 600 years and Jerusalem was kept a backwater city of no significance. As the Pakistani historian Mobarak Haidar recently wrote, &quot;Muslims of the world have no religious basis to rule Jerusalem.&quot;

One can also add the Arabs controlled Jerusalem between 1948 and 1967 and never did anything during that time to declare Jerusalem the capital of any Arab, Palestinian Arab or Muslim entity.

The current uproar in the OIC is a call to incitement, contrived,very shallow and without any substance.

What is even worse is the support the UN Security Council is giving to those spurious OIC claims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281489">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Lynne for posting this link.</p>
<p>The author makes the following very relevant comment:<br />
&#8220;The fact Turkey has now taken the lead to speak for the Palestinians is rich with irony considering the Ottoman Turks colonized the Arabs for over 600 years and Jerusalem was kept a backwater city of no significance. As the Pakistani historian Mobarak Haidar recently wrote, &#8220;Muslims of the world have no religious basis to rule Jerusalem.&#8221;</p>
<p>One can also add the Arabs controlled Jerusalem between 1948 and 1967 and never did anything during that time to declare Jerusalem the capital of any Arab, Palestinian Arab or Muslim entity.</p>
<p>The current uproar in the OIC is a call to incitement, contrived,very shallow and without any substance.</p>
<p>What is even worse is the support the UN Security Council is giving to those spurious OIC claims.</p>
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		By: david singer		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david singer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281243&quot;&gt;Erica Edelman&lt;/a&gt;.

Erica

Trump&#039;s declaration on Jerusalem is but the first step in his eagerly anticipated &quot;ultimate deal&quot; for resolving the Jewish-Arab conflict - which certainly promises to be revolutionary in its proposals when it is made public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281243">Erica Edelman</a>.</p>
<p>Erica</p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s declaration on Jerusalem is but the first step in his eagerly anticipated &#8220;ultimate deal&#8221; for resolving the Jewish-Arab conflict &#8211; which certainly promises to be revolutionary in its proposals when it is made public.</p>
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		By: david singer		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281603</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david singer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281307&quot;&gt;Steven Meyer&lt;/a&gt;.

Steven:

I regret that you describe my article dealing with international law as &quot;irrelevant drivel&quot;.

That is precisely how organisations like the OIC, the UN and the Arab League have dealt with international law for decades. 

Ignoring the binding effect in international law of the Mandate for Palestine legislated by the League of Nations in 1922 has led to the continuation of a conflict that should have been resolved there and then.

The Jews accepted the Mandate then - but the Arabs rejected it then and have done so ever since.

The UN since its formation in 1945 and the OIC since its founding in 1969 have been no better.

The continuing attempt by UN member States to undermine article 80 of the UN Charter is particularly disgraceful and has badly compromised the UN and its authority.

Sorry Steven - whilst people like you denigrate international law - this conflict is set to continue.

Laying down the law and insisting the Arabs respect and follow it is urgently required.

Trump&#039;s declaration was made in accordance with international law. That is what is galling the OIC and the UN. The longer they remain in a state of denial, the more their rantings and ravings become &quot;irrelevant drivel&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281307">Steven Meyer</a>.</p>
<p>Steven:</p>
<p>I regret that you describe my article dealing with international law as &#8220;irrelevant drivel&#8221;.</p>
<p>That is precisely how organisations like the OIC, the UN and the Arab League have dealt with international law for decades. </p>
<p>Ignoring the binding effect in international law of the Mandate for Palestine legislated by the League of Nations in 1922 has led to the continuation of a conflict that should have been resolved there and then.</p>
<p>The Jews accepted the Mandate then &#8211; but the Arabs rejected it then and have done so ever since.</p>
<p>The UN since its formation in 1945 and the OIC since its founding in 1969 have been no better.</p>
<p>The continuing attempt by UN member States to undermine article 80 of the UN Charter is particularly disgraceful and has badly compromised the UN and its authority.</p>
<p>Sorry Steven &#8211; whilst people like you denigrate international law &#8211; this conflict is set to continue.</p>
<p>Laying down the law and insisting the Arabs respect and follow it is urgently required.</p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s declaration was made in accordance with international law. That is what is galling the OIC and the UN. The longer they remain in a state of denial, the more their rantings and ravings become &#8220;irrelevant drivel&#8221;</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281489</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 05:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[May I add the latest in my malbox from Middle East Forum?....http://www.meforum.org/7099/long-history-of-hypocrisy-about-jerusalem]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I add the latest in my malbox from Middle East Forum?&#8230;.<a href="http://www.meforum.org/7099/long-history-of-hypocrisy-about-jerusalem" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.meforum.org/7099/long-history-of-hypocrisy-about-jerusalem</a></p>
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		By: Steven Meyer		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh dear, another bit of irrelevant drivel about so-called &quot;international law&quot;.

Either other countries will follow Trump&#039;s lead and recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Or they will not. We shall see.

In the meantime Trump has signed the waiver so an embassy move is not imminent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, another bit of irrelevant drivel about so-called &#8220;international law&#8221;.</p>
<p>Either other countries will follow Trump&#8217;s lead and recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Or they will not. We shall see.</p>
<p>In the meantime Trump has signed the waiver so an embassy move is not imminent.</p>
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		By: Erica Edelman		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/oic-in-legal-fantasyland-over-trump-jerusalem-and-israel/#comment-281243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erica Edelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2017 06:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you David for making clear those valuable 
References - hopefully the RIGHT ppl will be reading them
It’s a very frustrating situation and one fraught with 
More frustration should intelligence, common-sense and 
Historical relevance not be used in the near future.
Perhaps Trump can, in his inimitable way, change the course 
Of nature and history by forcing the Arabs to look reality in 
The face and ACT accordingly - sometime SOON!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you David for making clear those valuable<br />
References &#8211; hopefully the RIGHT ppl will be reading them<br />
It’s a very frustrating situation and one fraught with<br />
More frustration should intelligence, common-sense and<br />
Historical relevance not be used in the near future.<br />
Perhaps Trump can, in his inimitable way, change the course<br />
Of nature and history by forcing the Arabs to look reality in<br />
The face and ACT accordingly &#8211; sometime SOON!</p>
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