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		By: Liat Nagar		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138979</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liat Nagar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2015 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Malvina,
Satire is a clever form of comedy, with depth, nuance, irony and sharp wit. So, the question here is, does the writing of Lena Dunham deserve this nomenclature? If satire is taken to an extreme that becomes grotesque, it becomes other. If name-calling stays at base level, it remains abusive. Does LD deserve to be &#039;laughed along with&#039;? That is another question. We should be aiming our analysis there rather than at audience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malvina,<br />
Satire is a clever form of comedy, with depth, nuance, irony and sharp wit. So, the question here is, does the writing of Lena Dunham deserve this nomenclature? If satire is taken to an extreme that becomes grotesque, it becomes other. If name-calling stays at base level, it remains abusive. Does LD deserve to be &#8216;laughed along with&#8217;? That is another question. We should be aiming our analysis there rather than at audience.</p>
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		By: Gabrielle Gouch		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138890</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabrielle Gouch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 06:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138785&quot;&gt;Malvina&lt;/a&gt;.

The New Yorker is considered a top magazine, its readership would have a  significant % of Jews.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138785">Malvina</a>.</p>
<p>The New Yorker is considered a top magazine, its readership would have a  significant % of Jews.</p>
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		By: Malvina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malvina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that this comedian is being satirical about her Jewish boyfriend. The problem which Dr. Abramovich identifies is that not all people understand satire. Certainly not anti-Semites who would take it as it is written.However, who are the readership of The New Yorker? Are they an intelligent lot who would laugh along with her or are they a straight-laced lot who would agree with her stereotyping of Jews?
We certainly are sensitive and we certainly do not need this kind of humour,- unless it is in-house! We know how to laugh at ourselves but not against us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this comedian is being satirical about her Jewish boyfriend. The problem which Dr. Abramovich identifies is that not all people understand satire. Certainly not anti-Semites who would take it as it is written.However, who are the readership of The New Yorker? Are they an intelligent lot who would laugh along with her or are they a straight-laced lot who would agree with her stereotyping of Jews?<br />
We certainly are sensitive and we certainly do not need this kind of humour,- unless it is in-house! We know how to laugh at ourselves but not against us.</p>
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		By: Gil Solomon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gil Solomon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 08:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138681&quot;&gt;Leon Poddebsky&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said Leon.

On the whole we are a pathetic lot, always trying to be smart and finding ways to rationalise the irrational.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138681">Leon Poddebsky</a>.</p>
<p>Well said Leon.</p>
<p>On the whole we are a pathetic lot, always trying to be smart and finding ways to rationalise the irrational.</p>
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		By: Liat Nagar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liat Nagar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 06:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The point here is that Lena Dunham has used the word &#039;Jew&#039; and/or &#039;Jewish&#039; to preface her remarks. If she simply wanted to vent her vulgarity and abuse at her boyfriend, leaving Jewish out of the equation, that&#039;s a different matter (although one I would still find repugnant). It&#039;s not just a loose-mouthed celebrity, full of her own importance while assuming some sort of buoyant charisma she doesn&#039;t actually possess, enjoying having a go while getting herself published. (And what&#039;s literary about it?!) She knew what she was doing all right. And she just doesn&#039;t care.

Again, I agree with Gil.  This particular response by B&#039;nai Brith was mealy-mouthed, flat in tone due to absolute lack of passion or conviction, and completely inappropriate. Is this soft-pedalling because the woman is Jewish? We really do have to do better than this.

Why do we want to go easy on, or applaud, celebrities just because they&#039;re Jewish? It&#039;s ridiculous. With the death of Joan Rivers, that other loud-mouthed American comedienne, we had Benjamin Netanyahu saying all sorts of wonderful things about her and lamenting her death, just because she was Jewish. To my knowledge she&#039;d contributed nothing to her Jewish heritage; all she&#039;d cared about was her fame and how she looked, the notoriety or &#039;splash&#039; she could cause. I thought her a narcissistic, extremely unattractive, vulgar person, lacking in any kind of wit that might have made her funny. It seems Lena Dunham could be the same. 

Are we supposed to excuse people for their lack of integrity, sensitivity, civility and awareness of others, as well as use of stereotypes that have grown from anti-Semitism, just because they happen to be New Yorkers who are also comedians? It doesn&#039;t cut the mustard with me, as the colloquialism goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point here is that Lena Dunham has used the word &#8216;Jew&#8217; and/or &#8216;Jewish&#8217; to preface her remarks. If she simply wanted to vent her vulgarity and abuse at her boyfriend, leaving Jewish out of the equation, that&#8217;s a different matter (although one I would still find repugnant). It&#8217;s not just a loose-mouthed celebrity, full of her own importance while assuming some sort of buoyant charisma she doesn&#8217;t actually possess, enjoying having a go while getting herself published. (And what&#8217;s literary about it?!) She knew what she was doing all right. And she just doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Again, I agree with Gil.  This particular response by B&#8217;nai Brith was mealy-mouthed, flat in tone due to absolute lack of passion or conviction, and completely inappropriate. Is this soft-pedalling because the woman is Jewish? We really do have to do better than this.</p>
<p>Why do we want to go easy on, or applaud, celebrities just because they&#8217;re Jewish? It&#8217;s ridiculous. With the death of Joan Rivers, that other loud-mouthed American comedienne, we had Benjamin Netanyahu saying all sorts of wonderful things about her and lamenting her death, just because she was Jewish. To my knowledge she&#8217;d contributed nothing to her Jewish heritage; all she&#8217;d cared about was her fame and how she looked, the notoriety or &#8216;splash&#8217; she could cause. I thought her a narcissistic, extremely unattractive, vulgar person, lacking in any kind of wit that might have made her funny. It seems Lena Dunham could be the same. </p>
<p>Are we supposed to excuse people for their lack of integrity, sensitivity, civility and awareness of others, as well as use of stereotypes that have grown from anti-Semitism, just because they happen to be New Yorkers who are also comedians? It doesn&#8217;t cut the mustard with me, as the colloquialism goes.</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138542&quot;&gt;David Faktor&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi David,

Have you heard the one about the Jew who got on a tram in Berlin in 1935 and saw a Jewish friend immersed in reading the Nazi newspaper?
Astonished, he asked his friend, &quot;Why?&quot;
Friend&#039;s response: &quot; When I read the other papers, it&#039;s all doom and gloom: Nuremberg Laws, boycotts, exclusions from universities etc etc, but THIS paper tells me that we rule the world- the banks, industry, the arts etc etc.&quot;

Funny enough for you?

Peace and justice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138542">David Faktor</a>.</p>
<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Have you heard the one about the Jew who got on a tram in Berlin in 1935 and saw a Jewish friend immersed in reading the Nazi newspaper?<br />
Astonished, he asked his friend, &#8220;Why?&#8221;<br />
Friend&#8217;s response: &#8221; When I read the other papers, it&#8217;s all doom and gloom: Nuremberg Laws, boycotts, exclusions from universities etc etc, but THIS paper tells me that we rule the world- the banks, industry, the arts etc etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny enough for you?</p>
<p>Peace and justice.</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138680</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138527&quot;&gt;Gabrielle Gouch&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes; but coincidentally, her literary piece was published hard on the heels of our Lynch scandal, so people are sensitised.
And don&#039;t forget the recent manifestations of all the warm love, friendship and multiculturalism that we witnessed during those carnivals in the streets of Sydney, when thousands marched down George Street, yelling &quot;Death to Israel,&quot; &quot;Jews.....&quot;,
and other expressions of love for humanity.
There is a global climate; her literary effort reflects it. 
Paranoia is bad; ostrich behaviour is worse.
We&#039;ve been here before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138527">Gabrielle Gouch</a>.</p>
<p>Yes; but coincidentally, her literary piece was published hard on the heels of our Lynch scandal, so people are sensitised.<br />
And don&#8217;t forget the recent manifestations of all the warm love, friendship and multiculturalism that we witnessed during those carnivals in the streets of Sydney, when thousands marched down George Street, yelling &#8220;Death to Israel,&#8221; &#8220;Jews&#8230;..&#8221;,<br />
and other expressions of love for humanity.<br />
There is a global climate; her literary effort reflects it.<br />
Paranoia is bad; ostrich behaviour is worse.<br />
We&#8217;ve been here before.</p>
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		By: David Faktor		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138542</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Faktor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we need to stop taking ourselves so seriously and get a sense of perspective. The day we become a gormless, mean-spirited and humourless society will herald a true victory for the real haters out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to stop taking ourselves so seriously and get a sense of perspective. The day we become a gormless, mean-spirited and humourless society will herald a true victory for the real haters out there.</p>
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		By: Gabrielle Gouch		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabrielle Gouch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Give us a break, all of you.
Did it occur to you that she just hates her boyfriend and her sense of humour is questionable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give us a break, all of you.<br />
Did it occur to you that she just hates her boyfriend and her sense of humour is questionable.</p>
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		By: Eleonora Mostert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eleonora Mostert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 21:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138359&quot;&gt;Kevin Charles Herbert&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually Kevin, Leon Poddebsky is correct. I too have hear and read we were compared not only dogs but to apes and pigs as well. I&#039;m don&#039;t usually take down names as to whom said what where and when, but I will next time as it is quite frequently said, Mainly by Muslims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/new-yorker-article-compares-jews-to-dogs/#comment-138359">Kevin Charles Herbert</a>.</p>
<p>Actually Kevin, Leon Poddebsky is correct. I too have hear and read we were compared not only dogs but to apes and pigs as well. I&#8217;m don&#8217;t usually take down names as to whom said what where and when, but I will next time as it is quite frequently said, Mainly by Muslims.</p>
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