Comments on: Geert Wilders’ Mistake…

By: Danny

Danny — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 05:42:21 +0000

Few politicians are as pro-Jewish and pro-Israel as Geert Wilders, the leader of the Dutch Freedom Party PVV. The 49-year old Wilders, who lives under round-the-clock police protection because of Islamist death threats, has visited Israel over 40 times. In his recent book Marked for Death: Islam’s War against the West and Me, Wilders, who was raised a Catholic, relates how he lived and worked in Israel for one year as a young man and how he admires the Jews and their state.
Geert Wilders also leads the fight against anti-Semitism in the Netherlands — and in Europe. Two years ago, the senior Dutch politician Frits Bolkestein advised “recognizable Jews” to leave the Netherlands and emigrate to Israel and the U.S. because of the Dutch government’s inability to prevent the anti-Semitic violence committed by Jew-hating Muslim immigrants. An indignant Wilders reacted that “Jews shouldn’t emigrate; anti-Semitic immigrants should.”
Animal rights is a big issue for the Dutch. There is even an Animal Rights political party. Voting in the matter of unstunned animal slaughter of any kind was declared a conscience vote in Wilder’s PVV party. The Netherlands is one of the last countries in Europe to debate this ban.
To suggest that Wilders is in any way anti Semitic or anti Israel is worse than labelling our prime minister, Gillard, who is and has been a staunch friend and supporter of the Jewish Nation since her youth, with the same libel because of the anti Israel sentiments of the Left wing of the Labor Party, with Carr leading the charge. No faction of the PVV holds such a position.
Israel has few friends let alone politicians who so staunchly, even at the risk of losing votes, stand up for her. It is worse than folly for Jews to discredit them.

By: pam

pam — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 05:30:17 +0000

I too am disappointed that Wilders has come out so strongly against kosher slaughter, when there is abundant evidence that it is more humane than electrical stunning. There are various articles to support this, which quote evidence by experts with no axe to grind:
e.g. http://www.grandin.com/ritual/kosher.slaughter.html

If people truly are concerned about animal slaughter, they should become vegetarians.

So it is puzzling why he chooses to alienate Orthodox Jews in this way. Maybe his anti-Islam stance drives him to ban a method of slaughter that they use (but without the concern to treat the animals humanely, which results in the stringent safeguards employed in kosher slaughter).

Or maybe he realises that Jews are such a small minority that it’s best to go along and try to please the majority of Dutch people.

Whatever the reason, it seems unnecessary for him to focus on this comparatively minor matter, when there are many more important issues revolving round Islam and the diminution of our freedoms.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 03:01:10 +0000

[Amended.]

Shirlee ,Geert Wilders is undeniably a strong supporter of Israel and has been there over 40 times. In fact he has lost a lot of support in Holland purely because he stands up so passionately for Israel and has even been threatened because of this support Unlike the Jewish left and progressives who more support the Palestinian / Arab/ Muslim narrative and constant criticism of Israel.
This Kosher issue is an old one I enclose some material on this matter below.
It is very unwise and not very street smart for Jews here in Australia to get on the Muslim bandwagon and criticize Wilders when Wilders and the Jews have mutual enemies. Although I can imagine Leftists and anti Zionists like ADC, AJDS, IAJV, NIF, JSreet , ACJC and all the others with similar worldly views joining the Religion of Peace people {the same ones who bring out a conga line of extremist anti- Semitic clerics who vilify and incite hatred towards Jews] to protest against Wilders realistic view on what is happening in his part of the world.
Jews have no friends in Europe if Jews are to demonize Wilders and only play into the hands of the Arabs and Muslims we Jews deserve to be losing the PR war that’s for sure.
By the way whilst Wilders is a Popular politician in Holland the Palestinians have some very nasty bedfellows and supporters which include the very extremist Socialist thugs Socialist Alternative, Neo Nazis who have marched along side Palestinian protestors and Holocaust deniers {Adelaide Institute etc for example]
Notwithstanding all this the Palestinians still receive all the support from our media, Trade Unions, Academia, Lawyers, Barristers, red Cross, Salvos ,you name it makes no difference .
If Our Jewish leaders are smart they will look at the big picture and not be so naive to ignore our strongest support in Europe.
BTW the same org that is bringing out Wilders were the only group that supported Jewish residents In St- Kilda that didn’t want a Mosque in their backyard. Of Course the lefties at ADC supported the Muslims.

Please see this material

Here is some background information on the Kosher issue with Wilders {BTW many Jews in the Diaspora and Israel are divided on this issue ]

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3306/geert-wilders-smear

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/whose-law.html

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/kosher-slaughter-and-anti-semitism-part.html

By: geoffff

geoffff — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:36:31 +0000

Shirl

If his party’s platform included the banning of all ritual slaughter, except kosher slaughter, on the basis it has been established as humane, that would solve the issue I should think for his foreign supporters. Nor could such a law be said to be necessarily targeting Muslims. After all what about witchcraft?

A bit glib I know but it does leave open the possibility of halal being acceptable if the slaughterers lifted their game..

I did this issue to death, so to speak, with an animal rights activist and the usual suspects at the now defunct Webdiary a year or two ago here.

http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/3180

There’s plenty of research out there including this

http://www.grandin.com/ritual/kosher.slaugh.html

Mind you. Recent events in Israel do not help the case

By: Shirlee

Shirlee — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 22:05:22 +0000

I find this interesting from a man who claims to be such a strong supporter of Israel and Jews.
I’ve asked the organisers and others I know who are attending meetings to pose the question to him of WHY? to him