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	Comments on: First Jewish same-sex marriage announced in Sydney	</title>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285553</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285306&quot;&gt;Michael Barnett&lt;/a&gt;.

Stop making a martyr of yourself.
You could be Old King Cole for all I care happy to have the general terminology attributed to yourself.
To even mention the word Freakin in this context is disgusting and speaks volumes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285306">Michael Barnett</a>.</p>
<p>Stop making a martyr of yourself.<br />
You could be Old King Cole for all I care happy to have the general terminology attributed to yourself.<br />
To even mention the word Freakin in this context is disgusting and speaks volumes.</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285074&quot;&gt;Michael Barnett&lt;/a&gt;.

Are we to presume you are a faithful attendee?]]></description>
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<p>Are we to presume you are a faithful attendee?</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285244&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Lynne, while it&#039;s clear beyond doubt that you don&#039;t like me self-identifying as a queer man, it&#039;s not your place to tell other people how they should or shouldn&#039;t self-identify.

The &quot;I&quot; in LGBTIQ is for Intersex.  The Q is for Queer.  There are people who are not Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgender.  What do you propose people who are gender fluid, gender neutral or non-binary to call themselves?  Perhaps F for Freak?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285244">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Lynne, while it&#8217;s clear beyond doubt that you don&#8217;t like me self-identifying as a queer man, it&#8217;s not your place to tell other people how they should or shouldn&#8217;t self-identify.</p>
<p>The &#8220;I&#8221; in LGBTIQ is for Intersex.  The Q is for Queer.  There are people who are not Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgender.  What do you propose people who are gender fluid, gender neutral or non-binary to call themselves?  Perhaps F for Freak?</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2018 01:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285124&quot;&gt;Adrian Jackson&lt;/a&gt;.

This nothing to do with SSM and the law.
It&#039;s the &quot;Queer&quot; used in the acronym GLBTIQ that&#039;s the issue here and the generalisation that its acceptable.
It isn&#039;t for many or necessary. 
Here in Australia it spells out Gay, Lesbian,Bisexual, Transender, Intersex and Queer where as LBGT suffices and no edge given for offense or inviting [privately or publicly] derogatory comments and psychological harm to children.
If you&#039;re not a parent at least, with any insight further discusssion leads nowhere.
At least someone may take comfort in what I&#039;ve said and can do no more than that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285124">Adrian Jackson</a>.</p>
<p>This nothing to do with SSM and the law.<br />
It&#8217;s the &#8220;Queer&#8221; used in the acronym GLBTIQ that&#8217;s the issue here and the generalisation that its acceptable.<br />
It isn&#8217;t for many or necessary.<br />
Here in Australia it spells out Gay, Lesbian,Bisexual, Transender, Intersex and Queer where as LBGT suffices and no edge given for offense or inviting [privately or publicly] derogatory comments and psychological harm to children.<br />
If you&#8217;re not a parent at least, with any insight further discusssion leads nowhere.<br />
At least someone may take comfort in what I&#8217;ve said and can do no more than that.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285232</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 23:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285098&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Lynne, the word queer is in use at various levels of government around Australia:

https://www.dss.gov.au/careers/lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-intersex-and-queer-lgbtiq-staff

http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/community-care/advocacy-services/glbtiq

And heavens to betsy, there&#039;s the Melbourne Queer Film Festival, run by the queer community.

Please.  Give it a break and move on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285098">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Lynne, the word queer is in use at various levels of government around Australia:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dss.gov.au/careers/lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-intersex-and-queer-lgbtiq-staff" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dss.gov.au/careers/lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-intersex-and-queer-lgbtiq-staff</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/community-care/advocacy-services/glbtiq" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/community-care/advocacy-services/glbtiq</a></p>
<p>And heavens to betsy, there&#8217;s the Melbourne Queer Film Festival, run by the queer community.</p>
<p>Please.  Give it a break and move on.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285231</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285124&quot;&gt;Adrian Jackson&lt;/a&gt;.

Adrian, by way of corollary, would you support Jewish organisations paying for their own security infrastructure and not take government funding?]]></description>
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<p>Adrian, by way of corollary, would you support Jewish organisations paying for their own security infrastructure and not take government funding?</p>
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		By: Adrian Jackson		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285124</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285072&quot;&gt;Michael Barnett&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree Michael. SSM is law and the debate is over even for Lynne. 

Lynne I just call them &quot;Gays&quot; in letters as the acronym is a mouth full but its what they like using officially.

The Enqlish language is always having words and acronym&#039;s added. 

My Port Phillip Councillors use the acronym to discuss the Pride March in St Kilda and the Pride Centre we ratepayers and taxpayers are funding in Fitzroy St St Kilda soon. 

I disagree with this funding for the Pride Centre as the Gays  should pay for it but I am happy with the Pride March funding which is minimal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285072">Michael Barnett</a>.</p>
<p>I agree Michael. SSM is law and the debate is over even for Lynne. </p>
<p>Lynne I just call them &#8220;Gays&#8221; in letters as the acronym is a mouth full but its what they like using officially.</p>
<p>The Enqlish language is always having words and acronym&#8217;s added. </p>
<p>My Port Phillip Councillors use the acronym to discuss the Pride March in St Kilda and the Pride Centre we ratepayers and taxpayers are funding in Fitzroy St St Kilda soon. </p>
<p>I disagree with this funding for the Pride Centre as the Gays  should pay for it but I am happy with the Pride March funding which is minimal.</p>
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		By: Lynne Newington		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Newington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285072&quot;&gt;Michael Barnett&lt;/a&gt;.

The United Nations doesn&#039;t use it when referring to the community neither does the Australian Human Rights Commission, http://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sexual-orientation-sex-gender-identity/projects/lesbian-gay-bisexual-trans-and-intersex .
That&#039;s affirming enough for me, whether I&#039;m classed as being hung up on what everybody embraces or not.

&quot;And for what it’s worth the word Queer does not appear once in the article you reference&quot;.

It&#039;s in bold writing &quot;Leaders needed to end LGBTIQ violence&quot; without having to spell it out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285072">Michael Barnett</a>.</p>
<p>The United Nations doesn&#8217;t use it when referring to the community neither does the Australian Human Rights Commission, <a href="http://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sexual-orientation-sex-gender-identity/projects/lesbian-gay-bisexual-trans-and-intersex" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sexual-orientation-sex-gender-identity/projects/lesbian-gay-bisexual-trans-and-intersex</a> .<br />
That&#8217;s affirming enough for me, whether I&#8217;m classed as being hung up on what everybody embraces or not.</p>
<p>&#8220;And for what it’s worth the word Queer does not appear once in the article you reference&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s in bold writing &#8220;Leaders needed to end LGBTIQ violence&#8221; without having to spell it out.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285074</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 06:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-284965&quot;&gt;Paul Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

Paul, you seem to be at odds with Progressive Judaism on this issue, which is bizarre seeing you attend a Progressive Jewish synagogue.  Perhaps it&#039;s time to talk to your rabbi, or change your synagogue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-284965">Paul Winter</a>.</p>
<p>Paul, you seem to be at odds with Progressive Judaism on this issue, which is bizarre seeing you attend a Progressive Jewish synagogue.  Perhaps it&#8217;s time to talk to your rabbi, or change your synagogue.</p>
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		By: Michael Barnett		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Barnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 06:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285009&quot;&gt;Lynne Newington&lt;/a&gt;.

Lynne, please look up Queer Theory.  It is real, it is here and for the foreseeable future it&#039;s not going away.  You seem to be hung up on something that many people readily embrace.  Please learn and understand.  And for what it&#039;s worth the word Queer does not appear once in the article you reference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/first-jewish-same-sex-marriage-announced-in-sydney/#comment-285009">Lynne Newington</a>.</p>
<p>Lynne, please look up Queer Theory.  It is real, it is here and for the foreseeable future it&#8217;s not going away.  You seem to be hung up on something that many people readily embrace.  Please learn and understand.  And for what it&#8217;s worth the word Queer does not appear once in the article you reference.</p>
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