Shirlee, calling on AJDS, IAJV, etc to divorce themselves form the Jewish community is a waste of time because they maintain their standing in their reference groups by posing as the “good” Jews in contrast to us Zionist, democratic and Western values supportiing “bad” Jews.

What we need is to identiy and to publicly exclude them on the secular front and to persuade our rabbonim to place a herem on them.

We must make it clear to the world that Jews cannot support the enemies of Israel and Judaism. People who speak in support of islamofascism must not be allowed to pretend that they speak as Jews.

And the Bedouin who break Israeli laws must be dealt with by due process in the same way as Jews are. The Israeli political and judicial political elites who exempt non-Jews from the law must be removed from positions of influence. Regavim is doing the right thing and so is Im Tirtzu. PC be damned! Allowing the enemies of Jews to walk all over us, breeds more violent hate and contempt for Jews and the Jewish state.

James the building issue in question in the main is in the Negev, which is State owned land and no one is permitted to build on it.

Check out the web site, read through all the drop down menus and watch the videos too. Then you will see what is happening in the desert.
http://www.regavim.org.il/en/

It’s like the old Wild West if the US a complete state of lawlessness. The government has built beautiful towns for the Bedouin which lie empty. They prefer to live where they don’t pay rates, levies or tax. They have solar energy, drain water from and pollute the underground water supply. They are involved in highly illegal activities

Bedouin Gangs Ch10 Regavim expose.

You know what Michael?

People like Larry Stillman should divorce themselves from us, if everything about Israel is so loathsome and wrong about Her to them. All they are doing is harm.

Israel has enough to cope with situated as it is in the middle of hostile countries. She doesn’t need people of his ilk telling Her what she can and can’t do.

They have no right. If they want that privilege go live there there or stay shtum. Anyhow I would have thought looking at their Facebook page you have enough to take care of elsewhere in the world without demonising Israel, the only free and democratic State in the Middle East.

Thank goodness Michael you have the sense to refute Ben David and Larry’s nonsense.

You are right to point out that all people in Area C must obey the law. So what if for Jews living in Area C that means obeying the laws made by their elected Parliament and for Palestinians in Area C that means obeying the decrees made by the Israeli military governor. It is still the law.

And of course people should only be allowed to build if they have a building permit. Those who build so called ‘illegal outposts’ have a permit from god to settle the land for the Jews. So what if no permits are issued to Palestinians? They should go live in Jordan where there are plenty of building permits to go around.

It’s hard to understand what these Arabs are complaining about. Israel even builds walls for them but its never enough!

Ben David

Pity you didn’t come and listen to Ari. I did and learnt a lot. There are 200000 Beduin in the Negev and 130000 live in seven settled towns built for them by Israel who pay their taxes and are Israeli citizens.

The other 70000 are outside the grid,pay no taxes and build illegally. They run illegal businesses and extortion rackets and are polygamists who rort the system. As citizens of Israel they receive all the welfare entitlements that other Israelis receive.

There is one town built to house 35000 Beduin in which only 7000 live. The recalcitrant 70000 are not interested in moving in to this area.

Give us a break with your uneducated nonsense.

Larry

Lawfare has been engaged in by a multitude of NGO’s funded by foreign Governments and wealthy foundations and organisations aimed at undermining Israel’s national interest.

Those NGO’s are understandably miffed that a small under resourced group like Regavim is seeking the Court’s assistance to end illegal building by Arabs – and are winning their cases.

Area C is under Israel’s total administrative and security control.

Law breakers – Jews and Arabs – must be equally liable to suffer the consequences for engaging in illegal building activity.

The West Bank is not the Wild West and lawbreaking Arabs will be subjected to any orders the Court makes.

If someone builds illegally in Australia they will be subjected to the force of the law.

Why should it be any different in Israel?

What’s your gripe – other than to engage in Israel bashing?

I guess Stillman must be referring to the Arabs ethnic cleansing of the Jews around 1948 form Arab lands or maybe he’s referring to the Arabs and Muslims joint efforts to try to ethnic cleanse the Jews from Israel and the Middle East if they had the chance.

Burdy

No difference. The Bushman, Inuit and Aborigines migrated even longer distances than Bedouins who crossed over from Saudi from between 14th and 17th century. That makes them indigenous by modern standards.

They are certainly more indiginous than most Israelis.

Am not saying their settlements should be uncontrolled or chaotic but if you start from the false idea about their right to some kind of existence in the area then don’t be surprised by the response from the “enemy within”.

Ben David

OMG Michael

I cannot believe that. What the hell is the matter with these people.?

I really think we have to make a concerted effect for the JCCV to stop supporting these vile antisemites and I include the organisations you mention in that. Both Jew and non-Jew

If the JCCV doesn’t then we need to get them unaffiliated with the ECAJ.

Big difference Ben

The bushmen of the Kalahari are indigenous to South Africa, Australian aborigines are indigenous to Australia and American Indians are indigenous to North America.

The Bedouin are indigenous to Saudi Arabia, though in more recent times they have moved looking for greener pastures.