well articuated Lizzie and to the very points worth putting forward.
Anything else is just non-sense.
Most disturbing, as I said before, is that certain politicians delve into statements that are completley devoid of reason, just for the sake of keeping their electoral image in tune with the vulgar and prejudiced masses on which their personal, egocentric fortunes rest.
Our communal leaders should take, every now and again, the stance of pride in REASON and tell those who they reckon OUR wellbeing depends, that they are wrong, tendentious and out of touch with the decent stance a public figure should take. But then all those valuable photo opportunities next to the same useless political idiots will be gone and our leaders would lose …………………….our respect !!!!!

Well quite evidently, Mr L considers that working for ha Mossad, whether you derive from Israel or from the Diaspora, is immoral and indeed criminal. So if you wind up serving ha Mossad, you are very ‘lacking in ethics.’ Examples of Mossad operations abroad which have resulted in enemy fatalities, are considered by Mr L as being criminal operations, it would appear.

Yet I understand ha Mossad to be in fact admired by MI5, MI6 and the CIA, as doing a supremely good job at defending Israel’s security and G-d knows, Israel has enough security problems. The hit in Dubai: that subject 20 years before, had kidnapped and murdered in cold blood 2 Israeli soldiers. I think many around the world admired ha Mossad ‘for finally getting their man’, in the best British army tradition [for the 2 murders], even if it did take 20 years. How would things be bumping along in Israel, without ha Mossad? Is ha Mossad more lacking in ethics, than other Western security services?

Surely the only way to prevent Aussie youth serving in the IDF, would be to demolish the dual citizenship [Israel +Australia] currently available? Til that happens, surely serving in the IDF and even ha Mossad will continue to be seen as deeply honourable, by the vast majority of Jews in Australia?

Ben Zygier was a highly able Melbourne law graduate who chose an alternative career path – going on all the evidence. He was a student, as I am a graduate, of the David Syme Business school, Monash-CIT. There is plenty of evidence he was perfectly intellectually able. Its horrifying, that he wound up dead. For a while it looked as though the reason why he did, would always be cloaked in secrecy. I notice that the view of our own children [all in their 20s], is that he was serving honourably and something went terribly wrong, possibly involving inexperience, flawed training, or over-confidence on his part. What precisely, did go wrong, is yet to be revealed.

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Some hope Otto.!!

Hope you are enjoying your holiday. Miss you around here.