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		By: John Denney		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243366</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Denney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Roy Sims&#039; assessment. From a Christian perspective I believe that Islam is the Anti-Christ (in one sense). Islam want a world rid of Jews and Christians. They want one law that is tyrannical not religious. They believe that the G_d of Israel and Christianity is in favour of killing innocent men, women and children and justify it by calling us infidels.  I believe Jews and Christians can live together but Islam and Jews or Islam and Christian cannot. The west wants rid of Christianity and G_d but pander to Islam and cover up much in the media by couching  terrorist events with politically correct statements. The west is heading down a path os self destruction and allow Islam to surreptitiously enter into politics and introduce laws that favour Islam. In Australia Islam is now supporting Same Sex Marriage because they know after it is made law (and it will be) the governments will have very little ground to prevent polygamous marriage and who knows where it will end. The time is coming (very soon) where we will see Islam rise up even stronger than ISIS and a new world war, that will be difficult to stop, will see massive global decimation. The hardest hit will be the Jewish people and the Christian people. The west will beg Christians to come and fight for them even though they have set up the west to be an immoral society via its immoral politically correct laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Roy Sims&#8217; assessment. From a Christian perspective I believe that Islam is the Anti-Christ (in one sense). Islam want a world rid of Jews and Christians. They want one law that is tyrannical not religious. They believe that the G_d of Israel and Christianity is in favour of killing innocent men, women and children and justify it by calling us infidels.  I believe Jews and Christians can live together but Islam and Jews or Islam and Christian cannot. The west wants rid of Christianity and G_d but pander to Islam and cover up much in the media by couching  terrorist events with politically correct statements. The west is heading down a path os self destruction and allow Islam to surreptitiously enter into politics and introduce laws that favour Islam. In Australia Islam is now supporting Same Sex Marriage because they know after it is made law (and it will be) the governments will have very little ground to prevent polygamous marriage and who knows where it will end. The time is coming (very soon) where we will see Islam rise up even stronger than ISIS and a new world war, that will be difficult to stop, will see massive global decimation. The hardest hit will be the Jewish people and the Christian people. The west will beg Christians to come and fight for them even though they have set up the west to be an immoral society via its immoral politically correct laws.</p>
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		By: Roy Sims		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Sims]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2017 04:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243228&quot;&gt;Adrian Jackson&lt;/a&gt;.

You told me Adrian!
At least you told me they all worship the same God.
My view, which I commend you to consider logically for the reasons I outlined earlier, is that the god of Islam is NOT the God of Judaism and Christianity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243228">Adrian Jackson</a>.</p>
<p>You told me Adrian!<br />
At least you told me they all worship the same God.<br />
My view, which I commend you to consider logically for the reasons I outlined earlier, is that the god of Islam is NOT the God of Judaism and Christianity.</p>
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		By: Adrian Jackson		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242790&quot;&gt;Roy Sims&lt;/a&gt;.

How do you know that there is a different God for Christianity, Judaism and Islam if God exists at all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242790">Roy Sims</a>.</p>
<p>How do you know that there is a different God for Christianity, Judaism and Islam if God exists at all?</p>
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		By: Roy Sims		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Sims]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 06:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243002&quot;&gt;Adrian Jackson&lt;/a&gt;.

Or better still Adrian, come to terms with the truth!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-243002">Adrian Jackson</a>.</p>
<p>Or better still Adrian, come to terms with the truth!!</p>
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		By: Adrian Jackson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242790&quot;&gt;Roy Sims&lt;/a&gt;.

Might be better then to be an atheist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242790">Roy Sims</a>.</p>
<p>Might be better then to be an atheist.</p>
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		By: Roy Sims		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Sims]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 11:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242933&quot;&gt;Ron Jontof-Hutter&lt;/a&gt;.

BUT that Ron is beyond the capacity of most of us to accomplish.
What we can do however, as individuals, is to order our own lives in a manner which supersedes the views of a very ancient heretic.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is quite able to distinguish the heart of an individual from the collective heresies of past commentators.
The Brit Hadashah records an incident when Jewish Yeshua posed the question to His disciples &quot;Who do men say that I am?&quot; and followed it up with another. &quot;But who do YOU say that I am?&quot;
Therein lies the real issue for the Christian ... and the Jew.
All else is just commentary.
It&#039;s personal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242933">Ron Jontof-Hutter</a>.</p>
<p>BUT that Ron is beyond the capacity of most of us to accomplish.<br />
What we can do however, as individuals, is to order our own lives in a manner which supersedes the views of a very ancient heretic.<br />
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is quite able to distinguish the heart of an individual from the collective heresies of past commentators.<br />
The Brit Hadashah records an incident when Jewish Yeshua posed the question to His disciples &#8220;Who do men say that I am?&#8221; and followed it up with another. &#8220;But who do YOU say that I am?&#8221;<br />
Therein lies the real issue for the Christian &#8230; and the Jew.<br />
All else is just commentary.<br />
It&#8217;s personal.</p>
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		By: Ron Jontof-Hutter		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Jontof-Hutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 23:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242772&quot;&gt;Dorothy Stevens&lt;/a&gt;.

One obstacle to the &quot;one G-d&quot; debate is church founder Augustine, who advocated the concept of &quot;eternal witness&quot; whereby Jews would be cast eternally to pariah status. This status is central to European culture and reflected in art, politics,music and literature. It has extended to the treatment of Israel.
An essential gesture for reconciliation would be the formal repudiation of &quot;eternal witness,&quot; which nostra aetate did not address.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242772">Dorothy Stevens</a>.</p>
<p>One obstacle to the &#8220;one G-d&#8221; debate is church founder Augustine, who advocated the concept of &#8220;eternal witness&#8221; whereby Jews would be cast eternally to pariah status. This status is central to European culture and reflected in art, politics,music and literature. It has extended to the treatment of Israel.<br />
An essential gesture for reconciliation would be the formal repudiation of &#8220;eternal witness,&#8221; which nostra aetate did not address.</p>
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		By: Sylvia Mccosker		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sylvia Mccosker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242266&quot;&gt;Adrian Jackson&lt;/a&gt;.

Not Islam.  Moshe ben Maimon was very emphatic that the god of Islam is radically unlike the God of the TaNaKh.  More recently, others both Jewish and Christian - Franz Rosenzweig, for example, and Jacques Ellul in an essay entitled &quot;Les trois piliers du conformisme&quot;, and Rev Dr Mark Durie in a book entitled &quot;Which God?&quot; - have also systematically disposed of any attempts to assert that the &#039;allah&#039; of Islam (as represented and defined by Islamic practice, texts and theology) is &#039;the same as&#039; the YHWH of the Bible (whether one goes by the TaNaKh, or by the TaNaKh and the &#039;New Testament&#039;).

The godhead of Islam, the god-concept of Islam, is - as defined by William Palgrave, who knew the texts and teachings of Islam very well - &quot;a pantheism of Force&quot;.  That is completely unlike the God who is worshipped by Jews as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the God who is worshipped by Christians as &quot;the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God and Father of Yehoshuah the Messiah&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242266">Adrian Jackson</a>.</p>
<p>Not Islam.  Moshe ben Maimon was very emphatic that the god of Islam is radically unlike the God of the TaNaKh.  More recently, others both Jewish and Christian &#8211; Franz Rosenzweig, for example, and Jacques Ellul in an essay entitled &#8220;Les trois piliers du conformisme&#8221;, and Rev Dr Mark Durie in a book entitled &#8220;Which God?&#8221; &#8211; have also systematically disposed of any attempts to assert that the &#8216;allah&#8217; of Islam (as represented and defined by Islamic practice, texts and theology) is &#8216;the same as&#8217; the YHWH of the Bible (whether one goes by the TaNaKh, or by the TaNaKh and the &#8216;New Testament&#8217;).</p>
<p>The godhead of Islam, the god-concept of Islam, is &#8211; as defined by William Palgrave, who knew the texts and teachings of Islam very well &#8211; &#8220;a pantheism of Force&#8221;.  That is completely unlike the God who is worshipped by Jews as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the God who is worshipped by Christians as &#8220;the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God and Father of Yehoshuah the Messiah&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Roy Sims		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242790</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Sims]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242266&quot;&gt;Adrian Jackson&lt;/a&gt;.

Whoaaa!! Adrian,
How wrong can you be!
If you believe, as I do, that the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for His own reasons and purposes, which He has no obligation to explain to me, chose a people which we call Jews (from Judah) to be His special treasure (according to the Bible), then we have a problem with Islam.
If you think that the god of Islam and the God of the JEWS is the same deity,(which I do NOT) then that god has the most extreme case of split personality. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob LOVES the Jew. The god of Islam wants all the Jews dead.
How then can they be the same??
HUGE mistake. Trust me on this please Adrian.
Roy Sims]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242266">Adrian Jackson</a>.</p>
<p>Whoaaa!! Adrian,<br />
How wrong can you be!<br />
If you believe, as I do, that the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for His own reasons and purposes, which He has no obligation to explain to me, chose a people which we call Jews (from Judah) to be His special treasure (according to the Bible), then we have a problem with Islam.<br />
If you think that the god of Islam and the God of the JEWS is the same deity,(which I do NOT) then that god has the most extreme case of split personality. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob LOVES the Jew. The god of Islam wants all the Jews dead.<br />
How then can they be the same??<br />
HUGE mistake. Trust me on this please Adrian.<br />
Roy Sims</p>
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		By: Dorothy Stevens		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/do-jews-and-christians-worship-the-same-god/#comment-242772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorothy Stevens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen Roy Sims Well said. I too am grateful for the faithfulness of the Jews who have borne so much anguish over the last 2000 years (sadly and so regrettably often at the hands of those who have been Christians in name only - Real Christians seek -not always successfully-to follow the teachings of the Jewish Jesus Christ they love which is to &quot;love one another&quot;. We plead for forgiveness for our failings. My life would be empty indeed without the love of the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I have visited Israel and regularly pray for the Prime Minister and for Shalu Shalom Yerusalyim ( forgive any bad spelling - it sounds so much better in Hebrew) I love to read this paper including your comments - I printed your recent comments on &quot;bread&quot;-and would love to come to the Feast of Tabernacles again as so many Christians do to show support to Israel and be in that beautiful land. Thank you. May I say Shalom Dorothy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Roy Sims Well said. I too am grateful for the faithfulness of the Jews who have borne so much anguish over the last 2000 years (sadly and so regrettably often at the hands of those who have been Christians in name only &#8211; Real Christians seek -not always successfully-to follow the teachings of the Jewish Jesus Christ they love which is to &#8220;love one another&#8221;. We plead for forgiveness for our failings. My life would be empty indeed without the love of the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I have visited Israel and regularly pray for the Prime Minister and for Shalu Shalom Yerusalyim ( forgive any bad spelling &#8211; it sounds so much better in Hebrew) I love to read this paper including your comments &#8211; I printed your recent comments on &#8220;bread&#8221;-and would love to come to the Feast of Tabernacles again as so many Christians do to show support to Israel and be in that beautiful land. Thank you. May I say Shalom Dorothy</p>
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