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		By: BARRY MOND		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/did-paul-found-christianity-ask-the-rabbi/#comment-162968&quot;&gt;Ron Jontof-Hutter&lt;/a&gt;.

There is absolutely no historical evidence whatsoever, that the person called Jesus who appears in the book known as the New Testament, ever existed.

In fact of the 42 historians who lived at the time, none mention this so called &quot;miracle worker&quot;, &quot;king of the Jews&quot; and other descriptions attributed to him.

Philo, whose writings were in fact preserved by the early Christians, and who lived in Jerusalem during the period that Jesus was apparently operating, and who reported on every detail of significance that occurred in the city at that time, does not mention him.

Paul, Saul of Tarsis, made up a false faith based on falsehood. By his own admission, he neither knew or met Jesus.

However, having said all that, if one wishes to believe in the existence of Jesus, one need look no further than Mathew where Jesus in his sermon on the mount states that he has not come to change the law but to strengthen it. 

That law was Torah law.

So if you believe in Jesus, you have to accept the Torah. If you accept Pauls teachings, then you are going against everything that Jesus believed in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/did-paul-found-christianity-ask-the-rabbi/#comment-162968">Ron Jontof-Hutter</a>.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no historical evidence whatsoever, that the person called Jesus who appears in the book known as the New Testament, ever existed.</p>
<p>In fact of the 42 historians who lived at the time, none mention this so called &#8220;miracle worker&#8221;, &#8220;king of the Jews&#8221; and other descriptions attributed to him.</p>
<p>Philo, whose writings were in fact preserved by the early Christians, and who lived in Jerusalem during the period that Jesus was apparently operating, and who reported on every detail of significance that occurred in the city at that time, does not mention him.</p>
<p>Paul, Saul of Tarsis, made up a false faith based on falsehood. By his own admission, he neither knew or met Jesus.</p>
<p>However, having said all that, if one wishes to believe in the existence of Jesus, one need look no further than Mathew where Jesus in his sermon on the mount states that he has not come to change the law but to strengthen it. </p>
<p>That law was Torah law.</p>
<p>So if you believe in Jesus, you have to accept the Torah. If you accept Pauls teachings, then you are going against everything that Jesus believed in.</p>
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		By: Ron Jontof-Hutter		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/did-paul-found-christianity-ask-the-rabbi/#comment-162861&quot;&gt;Eric Belcher&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps Paul founded Christianity. But Augustine is generally considered the founder of the Church. While Paul rejected Judaic Law, Augustine with his &quot;eternal witness&quot; dictum, cast Jews into homeless, loathed  pariahs which has  dominated European politics, art, literature and anti Israelism to this day.  This particular aspect of Augustine needs to be formally repudiated by the church if  genuine inter faith  dialogue is to progress. The seeds of Augustine are very much evident in the EU and its treatment of Israel, as the Jewish Homeland. . Hence Israel is treated as a pariah nation, the &quot;eternal witness &quot; of the international community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/did-paul-found-christianity-ask-the-rabbi/#comment-162861">Eric Belcher</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps Paul founded Christianity. But Augustine is generally considered the founder of the Church. While Paul rejected Judaic Law, Augustine with his &#8220;eternal witness&#8221; dictum, cast Jews into homeless, loathed  pariahs which has  dominated European politics, art, literature and anti Israelism to this day.  This particular aspect of Augustine needs to be formally repudiated by the church if  genuine inter faith  dialogue is to progress. The seeds of Augustine are very much evident in the EU and its treatment of Israel, as the Jewish Homeland. . Hence Israel is treated as a pariah nation, the &#8220;eternal witness &#8221; of the international community.</p>
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		By: Eric Belcher		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice to see some defense of Rabbi Sha&#039;ul. Although I think it could be stronger. &quot;The parting of the ways between Judaism and Christianity was not necessarily something Paul expected, even though he facilitated it. Nor would he necessarily have foreseen the anti-Judaism that became endemic in Christianity.&quot; Not sure that I agree he facilitated it. However, he did warn the gentiles not to Lord it over people and to remember that they were the wild olive branch grafted into Israel, that they didn&#039;t support the root, rather the root supported them. 
As with most of God&#039;s warnings, for both Jew and Gentile, they tend to be ignored. Looking at Paul from a Hebraic perspective makes him thoroughly Jewish, his teaching consistent with Torah and very unChristian, no matter what the Christians may say. (From a gentile God fearer and ex Christian)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see some defense of Rabbi Sha&#8217;ul. Although I think it could be stronger. &#8220;The parting of the ways between Judaism and Christianity was not necessarily something Paul expected, even though he facilitated it. Nor would he necessarily have foreseen the anti-Judaism that became endemic in Christianity.&#8221; Not sure that I agree he facilitated it. However, he did warn the gentiles not to Lord it over people and to remember that they were the wild olive branch grafted into Israel, that they didn&#8217;t support the root, rather the root supported them.<br />
As with most of God&#8217;s warnings, for both Jew and Gentile, they tend to be ignored. Looking at Paul from a Hebraic perspective makes him thoroughly Jewish, his teaching consistent with Torah and very unChristian, no matter what the Christians may say. (From a gentile God fearer and ex Christian)</p>
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