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		By: Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404075&quot;&gt;Malvina Malinek&lt;/a&gt;.

Posing such question to Mr.Goot is inappropriate, Robert is a senior Barrister and lay leader not an Orthodox Rabbi or Dayan in the Beth Din.
I assume if there is a question about the Jewish status of a potential student the designated officer from the school  board or administration would approach the Beth Din for a ruling, the Beth Din may seek the view of  Chief Rabbinate of Israel in an extremely complicated case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404075">Malvina Malinek</a>.</p>
<p>Posing such question to Mr.Goot is inappropriate, Robert is a senior Barrister and lay leader not an Orthodox Rabbi or Dayan in the Beth Din.<br />
I assume if there is a question about the Jewish status of a potential student the designated officer from the school  board or administration would approach the Beth Din for a ruling, the Beth Din may seek the view of  Chief Rabbinate of Israel in an extremely complicated case.</p>
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		By: Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404173</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 05:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404098&quot;&gt;Boris Carshino&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Mr Carshino,
I assume that all who know me  would never suspect that I am in the same theological camp as the Reform movement.
Over the last 35 years I  have intervened to rescue Jewish youth and adults who were ensnared by missionaries, both Jews for J and similar groups.
Such cults  are a cancer, they insidiously  take advantage of the weak and vulnerable in our communities.
Consequently, I would respectfully ask that you to remove the reference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404098">Boris Carshino</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Mr Carshino,<br />
I assume that all who know me  would never suspect that I am in the same theological camp as the Reform movement.<br />
Over the last 35 years I  have intervened to rescue Jewish youth and adults who were ensnared by missionaries, both Jews for J and similar groups.<br />
Such cults  are a cancer, they insidiously  take advantage of the weak and vulnerable in our communities.<br />
Consequently, I would respectfully ask that you to remove the reference.</p>
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		By: Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404167</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 04:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404148&quot;&gt;Andrew Blitz&lt;/a&gt;.

The Halachic status of the  individual is not determined by the congregation with which they are affiliated.
In Australia I  would venture to say that a  substantial  proportion of individuals affiliated with Reform are Halachically Jewish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404148">Andrew Blitz</a>.</p>
<p>The Halachic status of the  individual is not determined by the congregation with which they are affiliated.<br />
In Australia I  would venture to say that a  substantial  proportion of individuals affiliated with Reform are Halachically Jewish.</p>
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		By: David Ziegler		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ziegler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404098&quot;&gt;Boris Carshino&lt;/a&gt;.

Mr Carshino - I suggest you don&#039;t visit Israel. The law of return allows for Jews of all denominations (including those you so stridently disapprove of). I am intrigued as to how you know what the vast majority of Moriah parents think, given that no-one has ever bothered to ask them - indeed the school still refuses to allow the parent body to have any informed discussion on the matter.

Your contention that observant Jews are limited as to where to enrol their kids is false. They can choose any school they want - including Moriah, Kesser Torah, Yeshiva and Emmanuel. Conversely the only Jews who are restricted are Reform or Conservative who are subject to the equivalet of a school Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404098">Boris Carshino</a>.</p>
<p>Mr Carshino &#8211; I suggest you don&#8217;t visit Israel. The law of return allows for Jews of all denominations (including those you so stridently disapprove of). I am intrigued as to how you know what the vast majority of Moriah parents think, given that no-one has ever bothered to ask them &#8211; indeed the school still refuses to allow the parent body to have any informed discussion on the matter.</p>
<p>Your contention that observant Jews are limited as to where to enrol their kids is false. They can choose any school they want &#8211; including Moriah, Kesser Torah, Yeshiva and Emmanuel. Conversely the only Jews who are restricted are Reform or Conservative who are subject to the equivalet of a school Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign.</p>
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		By: Andrew Blitz		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404148</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amongst the impressive list of Australian day schools in Mr Goot&#039;s list there is one missing.  Carmel School in Perth is a Modern Orthodox Jewish day school.  Due to the nature of the Perth Jewish community, which apparently is completely off the radar of the Eastern States, there is only one Jewish Day school in Perth.  The school has students from across the spectrum of the community including families from the reform community.  If a child is not halachically Jewish according to Orthodox tradition they are still welcome to the school.  Religious services and observances are in accordance with halacha, but this is respected as the ethos of the school.  It can and does work and is a model of Jewish communal unity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amongst the impressive list of Australian day schools in Mr Goot&#8217;s list there is one missing.  Carmel School in Perth is a Modern Orthodox Jewish day school.  Due to the nature of the Perth Jewish community, which apparently is completely off the radar of the Eastern States, there is only one Jewish Day school in Perth.  The school has students from across the spectrum of the community including families from the reform community.  If a child is not halachically Jewish according to Orthodox tradition they are still welcome to the school.  Religious services and observances are in accordance with halacha, but this is respected as the ethos of the school.  It can and does work and is a model of Jewish communal unity.</p>
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		By: Boris Carshino		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404098</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Mr Ziegler, but according to Halacha, conversion by non-Orthodox clergy - despite their claim to be &quot;Jewish&quot; - is equal to conversion to &quot;Judaism&quot;  by Jews for Jesus.

And while it may not bother you to have non-(Halachic) Jews in Moriah, the vast majority of parents differ.

You have a choice of sending your children to Emanuel or even Kings College, but genuine observant Jews are limited to where their kids are enrolled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mr Ziegler, but according to Halacha, conversion by non-Orthodox clergy &#8211; despite their claim to be &#8220;Jewish&#8221; &#8211; is equal to conversion to &#8220;Judaism&#8221;  by Jews for Jesus.</p>
<p>And while it may not bother you to have non-(Halachic) Jews in Moriah, the vast majority of parents differ.</p>
<p>You have a choice of sending your children to Emanuel or even Kings College, but genuine observant Jews are limited to where their kids are enrolled.</p>
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		By: Malvina Malinek		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404075</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just one more question Mr. Goot,- how many generations does the inquisition go back to determine one’s chalahic credentials for each child? 
Most European parents/grandparents or immigrants from other continents would have no proof of their distant backgrounds. You would have to take their word for their Jewish background, wouldn’t yoy in order to accept their children? Ir the school would not accept unless there is proof?

As far as I understand, Moriah is not a Yeshivah and unless I am wrong, it is not affiliated with Mizrachi or Adass or a similar ultra-Orthodox ,-  therefore it is totally out of character to demand a certified  chechsher for each child enrolled there. This is particularly galling when it discriminates against the child of a former student. Their future partners should not be your concern. They chiose their own from every walk of life these days unless iof course you have arranged or servile marriages going on there!

Sorry,- it looks like discriminatory practices by the school and we cannot complain when Jews are excluded anywhere else by non-Jews.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more question Mr. Goot,- how many generations does the inquisition go back to determine one’s chalahic credentials for each child?<br />
Most European parents/grandparents or immigrants from other continents would have no proof of their distant backgrounds. You would have to take their word for their Jewish background, wouldn’t yoy in order to accept their children? Ir the school would not accept unless there is proof?</p>
<p>As far as I understand, Moriah is not a Yeshivah and unless I am wrong, it is not affiliated with Mizrachi or Adass or a similar ultra-Orthodox ,-  therefore it is totally out of character to demand a certified  chechsher for each child enrolled there. This is particularly galling when it discriminates against the child of a former student. Their future partners should not be your concern. They chiose their own from every walk of life these days unless iof course you have arranged or servile marriages going on there!</p>
<p>Sorry,- it looks like discriminatory practices by the school and we cannot complain when Jews are excluded anywhere else by non-Jews.</p>
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		By: David Ziegler		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/dear-mr-wolff/#comment-404070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ziegler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Goot - I am a Moriah parent. Please do not claim to speak for me. I do not appreciate Moriah’s discriminatory enrolment policy - in fact I am disgusted by it. As a Moriah alumni the most important thing I learnt during my Jewish education was to stand up and speak out against discrimination and bigotry. Moriah College is the only mainstream Jewish high school in Sydney’s east that has spare capacity. To see the school alienating and turning away members of the community seeking a modern orthodox Jewish education is shameful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Goot &#8211; I am a Moriah parent. Please do not claim to speak for me. I do not appreciate Moriah’s discriminatory enrolment policy &#8211; in fact I am disgusted by it. As a Moriah alumni the most important thing I learnt during my Jewish education was to stand up and speak out against discrimination and bigotry. Moriah College is the only mainstream Jewish high school in Sydney’s east that has spare capacity. To see the school alienating and turning away members of the community seeking a modern orthodox Jewish education is shameful.</p>
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