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		By: Liat Kirby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liat Kirby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the meantime, we now have that disgraceful piece put together by the ABC, in cahoots with Paul Barry, aired last Monday night (09/10) on &#039;Media Watch&#039; regarding Jewish complaints of bias in reporting of the Israel/Palestinian conflict GOING BACK YEARS. Accusations are made of&#039;intimidation&#039; by Jews of journalists who &#039;only want to report what they see in front of them&#039; (so says John Lyons of The Australian). Well, John, you do need to understand what you see in front of you by reading a bit of history and absorbing the current local complexities, before you can report it in context. 

Michael Danby is referred to as &#039;a serial complainant&#039;. The Israel Lobby is referred to, apparently an okay reference to make, when in fact it replaces &#039;the Jewish lobby&#039; as a term with all that infers. John Lyons of The Australian and Ruth Pollard, ex-correspondent for The Age in the Middle East (the latter a terribly biased reporter to the point of unprofessionalism, as time and time again she presented melodramatic stories as heart-grabbers for the Palestinians, completely lacking fuller context), were cited as both having won Walkeley Awards for Journalism, as if that meant they could do no wrong, so we could assume the complaints against them unjustified. The AIJAC was mentioned as one of the &#039;complaining&#039; bodies, and Executive Director, Colin Rubenstein, when asked for comment, responded with admirable, succinct and pertinent reply. 

The &#039;Media Watch&#039; brief is to investigate media reporting and report on inaccuracies or sensationalism. So, what is it doing mounting this kind of obvious defence for the ABC and dragging other media into it to mount a big case against Jewish complaint, which is made to look insidious? That in a liberal democratic society, representatives of the minority group that is the Jews cannot actively complain of wrong-doing and bias from their own perspective without this type of reaction says a lot. Nothing much has changed.

What a state of affairs, when for so long now the relentless propaganda campaign internationally by the Palestinians to deny Israel&#039;s legitimacy and carve a place in the world for themselves as a sovereign state, without regard to Israel, has been so successful. Israel and Jews of the Diaspora have taken far too long to fight the rhetoric and present the facts. Now that we&#039;re doing so, we&#039;re not only not being listened to, but being branded with old style anti-Semitic responses in the guise of new terms to deal with it. 

Honest reporting matters enormously and now we have &#039;Media Watch&#039; practising corruption of its own brief because an ABC journalist is involved in distorting the truth by her bias. Shame on all of them. I have submitted a post complaining of this to the Media Watch website and am waiting to see if it&#039;s included unedited, or indeed at all. I urge anyone else who feels the same way to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the meantime, we now have that disgraceful piece put together by the ABC, in cahoots with Paul Barry, aired last Monday night (09/10) on &#8216;Media Watch&#8217; regarding Jewish complaints of bias in reporting of the Israel/Palestinian conflict GOING BACK YEARS. Accusations are made of&#8217;intimidation&#8217; by Jews of journalists who &#8216;only want to report what they see in front of them&#8217; (so says John Lyons of The Australian). Well, John, you do need to understand what you see in front of you by reading a bit of history and absorbing the current local complexities, before you can report it in context. </p>
<p>Michael Danby is referred to as &#8216;a serial complainant&#8217;. The Israel Lobby is referred to, apparently an okay reference to make, when in fact it replaces &#8216;the Jewish lobby&#8217; as a term with all that infers. John Lyons of The Australian and Ruth Pollard, ex-correspondent for The Age in the Middle East (the latter a terribly biased reporter to the point of unprofessionalism, as time and time again she presented melodramatic stories as heart-grabbers for the Palestinians, completely lacking fuller context), were cited as both having won Walkeley Awards for Journalism, as if that meant they could do no wrong, so we could assume the complaints against them unjustified. The AIJAC was mentioned as one of the &#8216;complaining&#8217; bodies, and Executive Director, Colin Rubenstein, when asked for comment, responded with admirable, succinct and pertinent reply. </p>
<p>The &#8216;Media Watch&#8217; brief is to investigate media reporting and report on inaccuracies or sensationalism. So, what is it doing mounting this kind of obvious defence for the ABC and dragging other media into it to mount a big case against Jewish complaint, which is made to look insidious? That in a liberal democratic society, representatives of the minority group that is the Jews cannot actively complain of wrong-doing and bias from their own perspective without this type of reaction says a lot. Nothing much has changed.</p>
<p>What a state of affairs, when for so long now the relentless propaganda campaign internationally by the Palestinians to deny Israel&#8217;s legitimacy and carve a place in the world for themselves as a sovereign state, without regard to Israel, has been so successful. Israel and Jews of the Diaspora have taken far too long to fight the rhetoric and present the facts. Now that we&#8217;re doing so, we&#8217;re not only not being listened to, but being branded with old style anti-Semitic responses in the guise of new terms to deal with it. </p>
<p>Honest reporting matters enormously and now we have &#8216;Media Watch&#8217; practising corruption of its own brief because an ABC journalist is involved in distorting the truth by her bias. Shame on all of them. I have submitted a post complaining of this to the Media Watch website and am waiting to see if it&#8217;s included unedited, or indeed at all. I urge anyone else who feels the same way to do so.</p>
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		By: Adrian Jackson		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-262680</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 07:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261564&quot;&gt;Jan Poddebsky&lt;/a&gt;.

None of the local councils within Melbourne Ports have links to BDS, as far as I know, they being Melbourne, Stonnington, Glen Eira and Port Phillip Councils. 

The Max Bremmer chocolate shop in Clarendon St, Sth Melbourne, that had a few BDS protesters outside (by chance I witnesses one when shopping), closed a few years ago.   

I think it closed as it was not competitive with the other numerous and long established cafes nearby rather than because 4 or 5 protesters on the footpath for a short period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261564">Jan Poddebsky</a>.</p>
<p>None of the local councils within Melbourne Ports have links to BDS, as far as I know, they being Melbourne, Stonnington, Glen Eira and Port Phillip Councils. </p>
<p>The Max Bremmer chocolate shop in Clarendon St, Sth Melbourne, that had a few BDS protesters outside (by chance I witnesses one when shopping), closed a few years ago.   </p>
<p>I think it closed as it was not competitive with the other numerous and long established cafes nearby rather than because 4 or 5 protesters on the footpath for a short period.</p>
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		By: Eleonora Mostert		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-262653</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eleonora Mostert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 04:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[99.9% of all Media have Sophie McNeill problem. Has anyone noticed the 100% biase against people voting No  in the Marrital Issue?? Not one of these people are giving the facts for the No vote but are pushing everybody to vote YES or be discriminated against in all aspects including violence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99.9% of all Media have Sophie McNeill problem. Has anyone noticed the 100% biase against people voting No  in the Marrital Issue?? Not one of these people are giving the facts for the No vote but are pushing everybody to vote YES or be discriminated against in all aspects including violence.</p>
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		By: J-Wire		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-262621</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J-Wire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261114&quot;&gt;Rita L.&lt;/a&gt;.

David not remove the ad. Management did. The advertiser requested it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261114">Rita L.</a>.</p>
<p>David not remove the ad. Management did. The advertiser requested it.</p>
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		By: Jan Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 00:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Adrian,
You have a point about spheres of responsibility. Perhaps you could run it by various local councils who think it is their business to promote the BDS against Israel campaign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Adrian,<br />
You have a point about spheres of responsibility. Perhaps you could run it by various local councils who think it is their business to promote the BDS against Israel campaign.</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 11:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-260979&quot;&gt;Jack Chrapot&lt;/a&gt;.

Jack

Sophie has a formula to which all &quot;reporting&quot; has to conform.  This is known as &quot;the ABC culture.&quot;

This is the same sort of culture that led a &quot;Guardian&quot; journalist some years ago to assert proudly that he had deliberately lied &quot;in the name of a higher truth.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-260979">Jack Chrapot</a>.</p>
<p>Jack</p>
<p>Sophie has a formula to which all &#8220;reporting&#8221; has to conform.  This is known as &#8220;the ABC culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the same sort of culture that led a &#8220;Guardian&#8221; journalist some years ago to assert proudly that he had deliberately lied &#8220;in the name of a higher truth.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 08:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;journalist&#039;s&quot; use of &quot;DIFFUSE&quot; where &quot;DEFUSE&quot; should have been used tells us a great deal about her work and about the ABC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;journalist&#8217;s&#8221; use of &#8220;DIFFUSE&#8221; where &#8220;DEFUSE&#8221; should have been used tells us a great deal about her work and about the ABC.</p>
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		By: Leon Poddebsky		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Poddebsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 08:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David

She probably re-read her first version and was horrified for reasons which we know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>She probably re-read her first version and was horrified for reasons which we know.</p>
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		By: Rita L.		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261114</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rita L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 08:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261059&quot;&gt;david singer&lt;/a&gt;.

What do you expect from a Media whose main &quot;source&quot; is Al Jazeera, to a point where I call them the Australian Branch of Al Jazeera.  Personally I resent the fact that I am forced to pay, via my taxes, for the spreading of Islam (and I&#039;m talking political islam since  Al Jazeera is  Qatar). 
Incidentally, same goes for the BBC and many State Media. 

PS:

You write: &quot;J-Wire ran the ad shortly but removed it on request&quot;.  Why were you asked to do so, and who pulled you into line ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261059">david singer</a>.</p>
<p>What do you expect from a Media whose main &#8220;source&#8221; is Al Jazeera, to a point where I call them the Australian Branch of Al Jazeera.  Personally I resent the fact that I am forced to pay, via my taxes, for the spreading of Islam (and I&#8217;m talking political islam since  Al Jazeera is  Qatar).<br />
Incidentally, same goes for the BBC and many State Media. </p>
<p>PS:</p>
<p>You write: &#8220;J-Wire ran the ad shortly but removed it on request&#8221;.  Why were you asked to do so, and who pulled you into line ?</p>
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		By: david singer		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/danby-stands-his-ground/#comment-261059</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david singer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 06:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sophie McNeill states:
&quot;This latest violence sparked by Israel installing metal detectors at entrances to the Al Aqsa mosque..a key Muslim holy site
The government put the controversial security measures in place after two policeman were killed there last week.&quot;

Hasn&#039;t she put the cart before the horse?

Isn&#039;t this what actually happened:

&quot;This latest violence was sparked after two Israeli policeman were murdered at the Al Aqsa mosque last week. 

The government then put controversial security measures in place installing metal detectors at entrances to the Al Aqsa mosque..a key Muslim holy site&quot;

There is a big difference - and Sophie McNeill must surely appreciate it.

She certainly did in her earlier report: 
&quot;After an attack near the Al Aqsa compound last week which killed 2 policemen, Israeli security forces installed metal detectors and banned young men from entering.&quot;

What - or who - made her do an about face?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie McNeill states:<br />
&#8220;This latest violence sparked by Israel installing metal detectors at entrances to the Al Aqsa mosque..a key Muslim holy site<br />
The government put the controversial security measures in place after two policeman were killed there last week.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hasn&#8217;t she put the cart before the horse?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this what actually happened:</p>
<p>&#8220;This latest violence was sparked after two Israeli policeman were murdered at the Al Aqsa mosque last week. </p>
<p>The government then put controversial security measures in place installing metal detectors at entrances to the Al Aqsa mosque..a key Muslim holy site&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a big difference &#8211; and Sophie McNeill must surely appreciate it.</p>
<p>She certainly did in her earlier report:<br />
&#8220;After an attack near the Al Aqsa compound last week which killed 2 policemen, Israeli security forces installed metal detectors and banned young men from entering.&#8221;</p>
<p>What &#8211; or who &#8211; made her do an about face?</p>
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