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		By: Otto Waldmann		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Rabbi, I hope that this finds you well.
I dare interlude with a completely different take on  the issue &quot;between&quot; the category of &quot;ends&quot; and seemingly the distinct one of &quot;means&quot;.
In actual fact there are no two distinct categories. 
Simply put &quot;means&quot; are ends in themselves. Everything we endeavour is an end as such. Hurting someone in order to obtain specific benefits, i.e. ENDS,  serves as an end in as much as &quot;pain&quot; constitutes a desired affect, an end of the act of physical pressure/constraints.
This is also to say that if ethical principles apply to the notion of &quot;purpose&quot;,&quot;ends&quot;, in the same manner, the same  ethical principles apply to what we falsely categorise distinctly as &quot;means&quot;. One may differentiate between a non tangible category, such as an idea, a principle,  as an end to be followed and the distinct category of physical means of implementing the said principle. Still no distinction in ethical terms.
When the example of one&#039;s efforts in achieving estetical, lascivious visual effects is seen as subservient to certain &quot;material&quot; effects, advantages, it is falsely seen as means of &quot;deception&quot;. Humans derive necessary, normal biological feelings from encountering pleasing sights, therefore what could be means of deceit are in fact ends in themselves of satisfying certain needs. Beauty , the satisfaction of emotional states is not a &quot;means&quot; but and end in itself, one inexorably contained in human existence. 

best regards

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rabbi, I hope that this finds you well.<br />
I dare interlude with a completely different take on  the issue &#8220;between&#8221; the category of &#8220;ends&#8221; and seemingly the distinct one of &#8220;means&#8221;.<br />
In actual fact there are no two distinct categories.<br />
Simply put &#8220;means&#8221; are ends in themselves. Everything we endeavour is an end as such. Hurting someone in order to obtain specific benefits, i.e. ENDS,  serves as an end in as much as &#8220;pain&#8221; constitutes a desired affect, an end of the act of physical pressure/constraints.<br />
This is also to say that if ethical principles apply to the notion of &#8220;purpose&#8221;,&#8221;ends&#8221;, in the same manner, the same  ethical principles apply to what we falsely categorise distinctly as &#8220;means&#8221;. One may differentiate between a non tangible category, such as an idea, a principle,  as an end to be followed and the distinct category of physical means of implementing the said principle. Still no distinction in ethical terms.<br />
When the example of one&#8217;s efforts in achieving estetical, lascivious visual effects is seen as subservient to certain &#8220;material&#8221; effects, advantages, it is falsely seen as means of &#8220;deception&#8221;. Humans derive necessary, normal biological feelings from encountering pleasing sights, therefore what could be means of deceit are in fact ends in themselves of satisfying certain needs. Beauty , the satisfaction of emotional states is not a &#8220;means&#8221; but and end in itself, one inexorably contained in human existence. </p>
<p>best regards</p>
<p>otto</p>
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