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		By: Joy Nainkin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy Nainkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2018 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/an-open-letter-to-rabbi-milecki/#comment-237728&quot;&gt;Joe Weinstein&lt;/a&gt;.

Lots of water has now flowed under the bridge with the result that Rabbi has lost the case in The Appeal Court and been ordered to pay ALL costs.He does not have Hazakah and it becomes apparent that he has paid the price for his arrogance and intransigence.

Joe have you read the judgement ?? 

I wish the rabbi and his family everything of the best where ever they go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/an-open-letter-to-rabbi-milecki/#comment-237728">Joe Weinstein</a>.</p>
<p>Lots of water has now flowed under the bridge with the result that Rabbi has lost the case in The Appeal Court and been ordered to pay ALL costs.He does not have Hazakah and it becomes apparent that he has paid the price for his arrogance and intransigence.</p>
<p>Joe have you read the judgement ?? </p>
<p>I wish the rabbi and his family everything of the best where ever they go.</p>
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		By: Rafi Plotkin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2017 22:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/an-open-letter-to-rabbi-milecki/#comment-237799&quot;&gt;Joe Weinstein&lt;/a&gt;.

Joe,with reference to a Tzibbur, according to Rabbi Sacks 

 &quot;........think of a group of people at the Kotel.They may not know each other.They may never meet again.But for the moment,they happen to be ten people in the same place at the same time,and thus constitute a quorum for prayer.A tzibbur isa community in the minimalist sense,a mere aggregate,formed by numbers rather than any sense of identity.A tzibbur is a group whose members may have nothing in common except that at a certain point in time they find themselves together ,and thus constitute a &quot;public&#039;for prayer or any other command which requires a minyan&quot;

( extracted from a Chabad website)


The use by Jodi of the word tzibbur does not detract from what is an articulate,succinct,logical and well written comment which everyone praises.

Jodi KOL HAKAVOD for enlightening us with your erudite comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/an-open-letter-to-rabbi-milecki/#comment-237799">Joe Weinstein</a>.</p>
<p>Joe,with reference to a Tzibbur, according to Rabbi Sacks </p>
<p> &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;..think of a group of people at the Kotel.They may not know each other.They may never meet again.But for the moment,they happen to be ten people in the same place at the same time,and thus constitute a quorum for prayer.A tzibbur isa community in the minimalist sense,a mere aggregate,formed by numbers rather than any sense of identity.A tzibbur is a group whose members may have nothing in common except that at a certain point in time they find themselves together ,and thus constitute a &#8220;public&#8217;for prayer or any other command which requires a minyan&#8221;</p>
<p>( extracted from a Chabad website)</p>
<p>The use by Jodi of the word tzibbur does not detract from what is an articulate,succinct,logical and well written comment which everyone praises.</p>
<p>Jodi KOL HAKAVOD for enlightening us with your erudite comment.</p>
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		By: Joe Weinstein		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Tzibur&quot; Is a term used by Jews who identify as Orthodox and observe halacha (Jewish law)

When Observant Jews are in dispute, Halacha directs them to the Beth Din to help them resolve their disagreement &#038; not go to the Nations of the world to resolve them nor air the &quot;dirty washing&quot; in public. How much more so when it is clearly Spelled out in a Writen &#038; Explicit Contract. Should an &quot;Observant&quot; community (Tzibur) behave in such a way?

Furthermore, צבר
Can mean A Jewish Community or A prayer group (Minian)
But it is explained that Tzibur is only a Tzibur when ALL three type of Jews are present:
צ = A Tzadik (a Ritcheous/ Holly person)
ב = A Benoni (an intermediate person .... our Goal to be...)
ר = A Rosha (an Evil/ Wicked person)

A Tzibur only becomes a Tzibur when all Three are present; and if only one (of the three) is missing; by definition it can no longer be a Tzibur.

There was a person that decided to instruct the (non-Jewish) Security guard, on Shabbes, to (forcibly) prevent the Rabbi from entering the Shule (whilst knowing that the Rabbi, a Jew, needed a Minian/צבר; to be able to say Kaddish for his father). What kind of a person could have given such a directive at such a sensitive time?

Was he the Tzadik? (Benoni?) and who was the Rosha, the person inside or the person &quot;Locked-out?&quot;
As a result one ought to ask &quot;Was there a Tzibur in the Shule on that 
What sort of a Legacy the Shule is left with?

There are a lot of questions that beg to be answered....

Or is one of the answers:
&quot;No it definitly is not *Baseless Hatred*
we have very good reason to Hate him your Honor....&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tzibur&#8221; Is a term used by Jews who identify as Orthodox and observe halacha (Jewish law)</p>
<p>When Observant Jews are in dispute, Halacha directs them to the Beth Din to help them resolve their disagreement &amp; not go to the Nations of the world to resolve them nor air the &#8220;dirty washing&#8221; in public. How much more so when it is clearly Spelled out in a Writen &amp; Explicit Contract. Should an &#8220;Observant&#8221; community (Tzibur) behave in such a way?</p>
<p>Furthermore, צבר<br />
Can mean A Jewish Community or A prayer group (Minian)<br />
But it is explained that Tzibur is only a Tzibur when ALL three type of Jews are present:<br />
צ = A Tzadik (a Ritcheous/ Holly person)<br />
ב = A Benoni (an intermediate person &#8230;. our Goal to be&#8230;)<br />
ר = A Rosha (an Evil/ Wicked person)</p>
<p>A Tzibur only becomes a Tzibur when all Three are present; and if only one (of the three) is missing; by definition it can no longer be a Tzibur.</p>
<p>There was a person that decided to instruct the (non-Jewish) Security guard, on Shabbes, to (forcibly) prevent the Rabbi from entering the Shule (whilst knowing that the Rabbi, a Jew, needed a Minian/צבר; to be able to say Kaddish for his father). What kind of a person could have given such a directive at such a sensitive time?</p>
<p>Was he the Tzadik? (Benoni?) and who was the Rosha, the person inside or the person &#8220;Locked-out?&#8221;<br />
As a result one ought to ask &#8220;Was there a Tzibur in the Shule on that<br />
What sort of a Legacy the Shule is left with?</p>
<p>There are a lot of questions that beg to be answered&#8230;.</p>
<p>Or is one of the answers:<br />
&#8220;No it definitly is not *Baseless Hatred*<br />
we have very good reason to Hate him your Honor&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Joe Weinstein		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2017 09:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/an-open-letter-to-rabbi-milecki/#comment-237397&quot;&gt;Angela-Leah Vered&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes indeed I agree with Angela-Leah.

Your letter Jodi is very nice; it also confirms that there were many in the community including volenteers who spent many dedicated hours to the Shule which included the Rabbi.

The Shule and the Board may indeed have been very generous to the Rabbi &#038; his family, however, I&#039;m sure this was done with transparency &#038; without the Rabbi holding &quot;a gun&quot; to the Boards head.
Indeed one can equally say:
&quot;You [the Board &#038; President] had your reasons but it was your choice, and a choice you made freely&quot;

If the Rabbi did not show gratitude and appreciation for such generosity; indeed one can be critical of that, as you were.
Was that the &quot;Major Crime&quot; that the Rabbi was/is guilty of or is he just &quot;disliked&quot; &#038; (G-d forbid) hated.

Let&#039;s not forget that the Board, President willfully Appointed the Administrators with seemingly THE main reason in dismissing the Rabbi. Indeed the very next day the Administrator did &quot;fire&quot; the Rabbi as INTENDED. Furthermore, the Administrators (surely with the instructions of the President &#038; Board) made an Application to the Supreme Court of NSW to VALIDATE what &quot;Blind Freddie&quot; could see as being immoral &#038; illegal. In summary it was Jews (the Board) who took another Jew (their Rabbi) to a Goisher Court to Validate their actions. And surprise, surprise (or was it?) the Judgment/Order said that it was &quot;Illegal&quot;. Mr Justice Brereton made a landmark decision that establishes the supremacy of HALAHA in all the affairs of an Orthodox Synagogue, (the Synagogue [!] was ordered to pay the Rabbi&#039;s Cost)
 &quot;The rabbi&#039;s contract includes hazakah,&quot; wrote Justice Brereton. &quot;The purported termination was therefore a wrongful dismissal.&quot; So which part of that the Ex-President &#038; the Ex-Board members did not understand. That they did not like it, that&#039;s understood, but Davka they think that they are above the Law &#038; SMARTER!

Didn&#039;t they read the Judgement; they pressed on to LIQUIDATE. It was not the Rabbi that called for the Administrator nor the DESTRUCTION of the Shule by Appointing the LIQUIDATOR. Is there something I&#039;m missing?
It&#039;s the old dejavou *Baseless Hatred* that was the cause of the Destruction of Second Temple; which we as Observant Jews remember during these three weeks.

To &quot;Reverse &#038; Correct&quot; this; we are taught that we must practice Baseless LOVE. 
Sadly I did not see any of which in this sad &#038; pathetic saga.

The Secular Law backs up a Valid Contract! The contract, as I understand requires the &quot;WARRING&quot; Parties to resolve their issues via a Bet Din. 
Don&#039;t you think that is exactly what should have been done?
Even more so that the Supreme Court has directed to do that very thing.

Have you read the Contract?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/an-open-letter-to-rabbi-milecki/#comment-237397">Angela-Leah Vered</a>.</p>
<p>Yes indeed I agree with Angela-Leah.</p>
<p>Your letter Jodi is very nice; it also confirms that there were many in the community including volenteers who spent many dedicated hours to the Shule which included the Rabbi.</p>
<p>The Shule and the Board may indeed have been very generous to the Rabbi &amp; his family, however, I&#8217;m sure this was done with transparency &amp; without the Rabbi holding &#8220;a gun&#8221; to the Boards head.<br />
Indeed one can equally say:<br />
&#8220;You [the Board &amp; President] had your reasons but it was your choice, and a choice you made freely&#8221;</p>
<p>If the Rabbi did not show gratitude and appreciation for such generosity; indeed one can be critical of that, as you were.<br />
Was that the &#8220;Major Crime&#8221; that the Rabbi was/is guilty of or is he just &#8220;disliked&#8221; &amp; (G-d forbid) hated.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that the Board, President willfully Appointed the Administrators with seemingly THE main reason in dismissing the Rabbi. Indeed the very next day the Administrator did &#8220;fire&#8221; the Rabbi as INTENDED. Furthermore, the Administrators (surely with the instructions of the President &amp; Board) made an Application to the Supreme Court of NSW to VALIDATE what &#8220;Blind Freddie&#8221; could see as being immoral &amp; illegal. In summary it was Jews (the Board) who took another Jew (their Rabbi) to a Goisher Court to Validate their actions. And surprise, surprise (or was it?) the Judgment/Order said that it was &#8220;Illegal&#8221;. Mr Justice Brereton made a landmark decision that establishes the supremacy of HALAHA in all the affairs of an Orthodox Synagogue, (the Synagogue [!] was ordered to pay the Rabbi&#8217;s Cost)<br />
 &#8220;The rabbi&#8217;s contract includes hazakah,&#8221; wrote Justice Brereton. &#8220;The purported termination was therefore a wrongful dismissal.&#8221; So which part of that the Ex-President &amp; the Ex-Board members did not understand. That they did not like it, that&#8217;s understood, but Davka they think that they are above the Law &amp; SMARTER!</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t they read the Judgement; they pressed on to LIQUIDATE. It was not the Rabbi that called for the Administrator nor the DESTRUCTION of the Shule by Appointing the LIQUIDATOR. Is there something I&#8217;m missing?<br />
It&#8217;s the old dejavou *Baseless Hatred* that was the cause of the Destruction of Second Temple; which we as Observant Jews remember during these three weeks.</p>
<p>To &#8220;Reverse &amp; Correct&#8221; this; we are taught that we must practice Baseless LOVE.<br />
Sadly I did not see any of which in this sad &amp; pathetic saga.</p>
<p>The Secular Law backs up a Valid Contract! The contract, as I understand requires the &#8220;WARRING&#8221; Parties to resolve their issues via a Bet Din.<br />
Don&#8217;t you think that is exactly what should have been done?<br />
Even more so that the Supreme Court has directed to do that very thing.</p>
<p>Have you read the Contract?</p>
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		By: Erica Edelman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2017 23:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An entirely preventable (and lamentable ) situation.
When the writing is on the wall it&#039;s up to all stakeholders
To play their role - even if their part is very uncomfortable.
Selflessness is the key here.
It&#039;s clear from this letter the Shule is empty.
A Shule can only function when the Congregation
Fully supports the Rabbi
Its very clear from this letter this is not happening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An entirely preventable (and lamentable ) situation.<br />
When the writing is on the wall it&#8217;s up to all stakeholders<br />
To play their role &#8211; even if their part is very uncomfortable.<br />
Selflessness is the key here.<br />
It&#8217;s clear from this letter the Shule is empty.<br />
A Shule can only function when the Congregation<br />
Fully supports the Rabbi<br />
Its very clear from this letter this is not happening.</p>
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		By: Angela-Leah Vered		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2017 23:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well spoken Jodi. However this history does not absolve the recent action taken by community members to spend further Shule funds by taking the matter to court not  the Beth  Din]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well spoken Jodi. However this history does not absolve the recent action taken by community members to spend further Shule funds by taking the matter to court not  the Beth  Din</p>
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