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		By: Lazer Lazaroff		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/adelaide-rabbi-facing-serious-fraud-charges/#comment-3387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lazer Lazaroff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All charges have now been dismissed after three and a half years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All charges have now been dismissed after three and a half years.</p>
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		By: Eliyahoo William Dwek		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/adelaide-rabbi-facing-serious-fraud-charges/#comment-1990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eliyahoo William Dwek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 14:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any man who chooses to be a ‘rabbi’ (‘true teacher’ of Torah) or a ‘dayan’ (‘judge’), or a ‘mekubal’ (‘kabbalist’) should be doing so Voluntarily. Out of his pure love for Hashem and the Torah. And his Ahavat Yisrael. 

If he refuses to do community work voluntarily, and wants and accepts payment for everything he does, such a man should not be heading a community. He should get a job and earn a living. He can collect milk bottles or clean the windows. That is what is called ‘earning a living’. 

Torah is learned, studied and taught: out of Love. Voluntarily. But the ‘rabbis’ have turned the Torah into their ‘Profession’, from which they earn money. 

We are commanded in the Shema to:

‘LOVE Hashem, your G-d, WITH ALL YOUR HEART, and with all your soul and with all your might.’  

‘VE’AHAVTA  et Hashem Elokecha BECHOL  LEVAVECHA  uvechol nafshecha uvechol meodecha.’ (Devarim, Vaethanan, 6:4-5)

Is the ordinary man or woman PAID to pray to Hashem, or to say some words of Torah? No. Has veshalom! But the rabbis are. These men can give ‘lovely’ shiurim that they have rehearsed. But they would not give a shiur without being paid for it.

The true hachamim and rabbis of old, all actually worked at proper jobs and professions.  

Wake up! Even a little child could have worked this out. These salaried men can never truly stand for the Torah, because in a case of conflict between a correct course of action according to the Torah, and the rabbi or rav’s pocket – his pocket and position will always prevail.

Pirkei Avot: (2:2) 

“Raban Gamliel beno shel Rabi Yehuda HaNassi omer: yafeh talmud Torah im derech eretz, sheyegiat shenaihem mashkachat avon. Vechol Torah she’ein imah melacha sofa betailah ve’goreret avon. Vechol haoskim im hatzibbur yiheyu imahem leShem Shamayim……”

“Rabban Gamliel, the son of Rabi Yehuda HaNassi, said: It is good to combine Torah study with a worldly occupation, for working at them both drives sin from the mind. All Torah without an occupation will in the end fail and lead to sin. And let all who work for the community do so for the sake of Heaven………”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any man who chooses to be a ‘rabbi’ (‘true teacher’ of Torah) or a ‘dayan’ (‘judge’), or a ‘mekubal’ (‘kabbalist’) should be doing so Voluntarily. Out of his pure love for Hashem and the Torah. And his Ahavat Yisrael. </p>
<p>If he refuses to do community work voluntarily, and wants and accepts payment for everything he does, such a man should not be heading a community. He should get a job and earn a living. He can collect milk bottles or clean the windows. That is what is called ‘earning a living’. </p>
<p>Torah is learned, studied and taught: out of Love. Voluntarily. But the ‘rabbis’ have turned the Torah into their ‘Profession’, from which they earn money. </p>
<p>We are commanded in the Shema to:</p>
<p>‘LOVE Hashem, your G-d, WITH ALL YOUR HEART, and with all your soul and with all your might.’  </p>
<p>‘VE’AHAVTA  et Hashem Elokecha BECHOL  LEVAVECHA  uvechol nafshecha uvechol meodecha.’ (Devarim, Vaethanan, 6:4-5)</p>
<p>Is the ordinary man or woman PAID to pray to Hashem, or to say some words of Torah? No. Has veshalom! But the rabbis are. These men can give ‘lovely’ shiurim that they have rehearsed. But they would not give a shiur without being paid for it.</p>
<p>The true hachamim and rabbis of old, all actually worked at proper jobs and professions.  </p>
<p>Wake up! Even a little child could have worked this out. These salaried men can never truly stand for the Torah, because in a case of conflict between a correct course of action according to the Torah, and the rabbi or rav’s pocket – his pocket and position will always prevail.</p>
<p>Pirkei Avot: (2:2) </p>
<p>“Raban Gamliel beno shel Rabi Yehuda HaNassi omer: yafeh talmud Torah im derech eretz, sheyegiat shenaihem mashkachat avon. Vechol Torah she’ein imah melacha sofa betailah ve’goreret avon. Vechol haoskim im hatzibbur yiheyu imahem leShem Shamayim……”</p>
<p>“Rabban Gamliel, the son of Rabi Yehuda HaNassi, said: It is good to combine Torah study with a worldly occupation, for working at them both drives sin from the mind. All Torah without an occupation will in the end fail and lead to sin. And let all who work for the community do so for the sake of Heaven………”</p>
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		By: Eliyahoo William Dwek		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/adelaide-rabbi-facing-serious-fraud-charges/#comment-1989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eliyahoo William Dwek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 14:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When ‘dayanim’, ‘rabbis’ and false ‘mekubalim’ use the Torah for their own power and commercial profit, this behaviour is abhorrent. 

No other ‘rabbi’ will ever act against another ‘rabbi’ - even when he knows his colleague is clearly desecrating the Torah. Each rabbi is only worried about losing his own position.

Therefore, the ‘rabbi’, ‘dayyan’ or false ‘mekubal’ (‘kabbalist’) will never effect justice. And he will never truly stand for the Torah or the Honour of Hashem. His pocket will always prevail.
 
The Torah must never be used for commercial gain and profit. Amm israel can only be lead by those who have the necessary love and respect of Hashem and the Torah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ‘dayanim’, ‘rabbis’ and false ‘mekubalim’ use the Torah for their own power and commercial profit, this behaviour is abhorrent. </p>
<p>No other ‘rabbi’ will ever act against another ‘rabbi’ &#8211; even when he knows his colleague is clearly desecrating the Torah. Each rabbi is only worried about losing his own position.</p>
<p>Therefore, the ‘rabbi’, ‘dayyan’ or false ‘mekubal’ (‘kabbalist’) will never effect justice. And he will never truly stand for the Torah or the Honour of Hashem. His pocket will always prevail.</p>
<p>The Torah must never be used for commercial gain and profit. Amm israel can only be lead by those who have the necessary love and respect of Hashem and the Torah.</p>
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		By: Former adelaide boy		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/adelaide-rabbi-facing-serious-fraud-charges/#comment-146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former adelaide boy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The despicable report of the Australian Jewish News has upset many in teh religious community and has spaked at least one lively new blog which is really socking it to the AJN.
Worthwhile having a look at it
http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The despicable report of the Australian Jewish News has upset many in teh religious community and has spaked at least one lively new blog which is really socking it to the AJN.<br />
Worthwhile having a look at it<br />
<a href="http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		By: Solomon		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/adelaide-rabbi-facing-serious-fraud-charges/#comment-132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solomon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Naftoli (9.06pm, above) - What has he got to do with anything? This is about Rabbi Engel.

Rabbi Engel has indeed a lot of explanining to do, but this time its to the Courts through the DPP. No one can claim its baseless - I don&#039;t think the Police like to go around having cases that they know they can&#039;t win.

I say we just wait for the Courts to decide and let this be the end of this saga.  Enough is enough.  Go home Engel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naftoli (9.06pm, above) &#8211; What has he got to do with anything? This is about Rabbi Engel.</p>
<p>Rabbi Engel has indeed a lot of explanining to do, but this time its to the Courts through the DPP. No one can claim its baseless &#8211; I don&#8217;t think the Police like to go around having cases that they know they can&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>I say we just wait for the Courts to decide and let this be the end of this saga.  Enough is enough.  Go home Engel.</p>
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		By: Naftoli		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/adelaide-rabbi-facing-serious-fraud-charges/#comment-131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naftoli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While what Rabbi Engel has done needs a lot of explanation it is well known that Norman Schueler has no love for Orthodox Judaism and especially Rabbi Engel.  
The success of Rabbi Abraham Gutnick during the last few years in Adelaide have formed a solid basis for a new permanent Rabbi to take over.   Despite what people like Schueler may wish for the Adelaide Hebrew Congregation was never in any danger of not surviving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While what Rabbi Engel has done needs a lot of explanation it is well known that Norman Schueler has no love for Orthodox Judaism and especially Rabbi Engel.<br />
The success of Rabbi Abraham Gutnick during the last few years in Adelaide have formed a solid basis for a new permanent Rabbi to take over.   Despite what people like Schueler may wish for the Adelaide Hebrew Congregation was never in any danger of not surviving.</p>
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