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		By: Otto Waldmann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David

I need your opinion on the incredible statement made on last Monday Qanda by &quot;someone&quot; that, if the palestinians (sic) would have accepted a state in 1948, all successive wars against Israel would have been avoided .

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>I need your opinion on the incredible statement made on last Monday Qanda by &#8220;someone&#8221; that, if the palestinians (sic) would have accepted a state in 1948, all successive wars against Israel would have been avoided .</p>
<p>otto</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ben

I am &quot;not openly acknowledging the fact that the two-state vision is dead&quot;. I did that many long years ago as you would be well aware from articles I have written over that period..

What my article is about - that you fail to completely understand - is that my view has now somewhat belatedly been reached by one of Israel&#039;s foremost  psychoanalysts and philosophers Dr Carlo Strenger and according to him by Western European governments.

Your wildly alarmist and unsubstantiated claim that bringing Jordan to the negotiating table with Israel will result in &quot;expulsion and population transfers to Jordan&quot; is with respect a load of codswallop.

What those negotiations will hopefully achieve is the allocation of sovereignty of the West Bank between Jordan and Israel under which no one - Arab or Jew - will have to leave his present home.

I have been positing this solution for the last 30 years. 

Maybe after the death, mayhem and suffering by both Jews and Arabs over that period in pursuing other failed solutions - the time for trying my solution may hopefully not be far away.

Quite frankly - in my opinion - I know of no other solution that has any chance of succeeding.

If successful - the Arabs will end up having their state of Jordan in about 80% of former Palestine (presently 78%) and the Jews having their state of Israel in about the remaining 19% (presently 17%)

I hope you can add up and notice about 1% is missing. That area represents Gaza - which probably will have to remain as it is for the foreseeable future - unless Egypt is prepared to step in and annex it.

Step by step the conflict can be resolved with goodwill and understanding if Israel and Jordan can be sat down at the negotiating table without any preconditions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben</p>
<p>I am &#8220;not openly acknowledging the fact that the two-state vision is dead&#8221;. I did that many long years ago as you would be well aware from articles I have written over that period..</p>
<p>What my article is about &#8211; that you fail to completely understand &#8211; is that my view has now somewhat belatedly been reached by one of Israel&#8217;s foremost  psychoanalysts and philosophers Dr Carlo Strenger and according to him by Western European governments.</p>
<p>Your wildly alarmist and unsubstantiated claim that bringing Jordan to the negotiating table with Israel will result in &#8220;expulsion and population transfers to Jordan&#8221; is with respect a load of codswallop.</p>
<p>What those negotiations will hopefully achieve is the allocation of sovereignty of the West Bank between Jordan and Israel under which no one &#8211; Arab or Jew &#8211; will have to leave his present home.</p>
<p>I have been positing this solution for the last 30 years. </p>
<p>Maybe after the death, mayhem and suffering by both Jews and Arabs over that period in pursuing other failed solutions &#8211; the time for trying my solution may hopefully not be far away.</p>
<p>Quite frankly &#8211; in my opinion &#8211; I know of no other solution that has any chance of succeeding.</p>
<p>If successful &#8211; the Arabs will end up having their state of Jordan in about 80% of former Palestine (presently 78%) and the Jews having their state of Israel in about the remaining 19% (presently 17%)</p>
<p>I hope you can add up and notice about 1% is missing. That area represents Gaza &#8211; which probably will have to remain as it is for the foreseeable future &#8211; unless Egypt is prepared to step in and annex it.</p>
<p>Step by step the conflict can be resolved with goodwill and understanding if Israel and Jordan can be sat down at the negotiating table without any preconditions.</p>
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		By: Norman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jwire.com.au/27877/#comment-19657&quot;&gt;Ben&lt;/a&gt;.

Ben, I think that David Singer is suggesting that Jordan reclaim its sovereignty over the West Bank.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jwire.com.au/27877/#comment-19657">Ben</a>.</p>
<p>Ben, I think that David Singer is suggesting that Jordan reclaim its sovereignty over the West Bank.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
		<link>https://www.jwire.com.au/27877/#comment-19657</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 10:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great insinuation. For years Zionists were paying lip service to the &quot;two state solution&quot;, and trying to hide the creeping annexation of the West Bank by the barrier, growing settlements and exclusive roads. Now Singer is openly acknowledging the fact that the two state solution is dead. So what is neded, expulsion and population transfer to Jordan. The vision of eretz Israel can be now realised by forcibly evicting the Palestinins from the West Bank, something that the armed settkers have been trying to do with Israeli armed backing for decades. 
Singer can be honest and endorse Liebermann et al policy of displacing the Palestinians into Jordan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insinuation. For years Zionists were paying lip service to the &#8220;two state solution&#8221;, and trying to hide the creeping annexation of the West Bank by the barrier, growing settlements and exclusive roads. Now Singer is openly acknowledging the fact that the two state solution is dead. So what is neded, expulsion and population transfer to Jordan. The vision of eretz Israel can be now realised by forcibly evicting the Palestinins from the West Bank, something that the armed settkers have been trying to do with Israeli armed backing for decades.<br />
Singer can be honest and endorse Liebermann et al policy of displacing the Palestinians into Jordan.</p>
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