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	<title>Comments on: The Mizrachi decision &#8211; Rabbi Gutnick responds</title>
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		<title>By: Lynne Newington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne Newington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate seeing this sort of thing within the Jewish community but at least everyone has a democratic right.
Besides, by now everything would have settled down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate seeing this sort of thing within the Jewish community but at least everyone has a democratic right.<br />
Besides, by now everything would have settled down.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizrachi</title>
		<link>http://www.jwire.com.au/news/the-mizrachi-decision-rabbi-gutnick-speaks/4047/comment-page-1#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizrachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Board &quot;member of 50 years&quot;:

It is irrelavent how many people &quot;wanted him out.&quot;

You still have to give a person what is owed to them.

As we now know, redundancy was not legally and halachically viable.

Simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Board &#8220;member of 50 years&#8221;:</p>
<p>It is irrelavent how many people &#8220;wanted him out.&#8221;</p>
<p>You still have to give a person what is owed to them.</p>
<p>As we now know, redundancy was not legally and halachically viable.</p>
<p>Simple.</p>
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		<title>By: member of 50 years</title>
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		<dc:creator>member of 50 years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong again I am not a board member.  But one that was not able to voice my opinion at the special EGM about the Rabbi because of people like you and Ron a very small minority very very small who were afraid that they would lose out at that EGM.  You caused all this.  The majority were there and there were huge numbers who wanted him out.  And you know that.  I am one of those members that YOU disenfranchised by supporting the Rabbi in not allowing the EGM to continue.  You helped disenfranchise the rest of the shule.  The majority. Your vociferous loud shouting physical and abuse of members has been disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong again I am not a board member.  But one that was not able to voice my opinion at the special EGM about the Rabbi because of people like you and Ron a very small minority very very small who were afraid that they would lose out at that EGM.  You caused all this.  The majority were there and there were huge numbers who wanted him out.  And you know that.  I am one of those members that YOU disenfranchised by supporting the Rabbi in not allowing the EGM to continue.  You helped disenfranchise the rest of the shule.  The majority. Your vociferous loud shouting physical and abuse of members has been disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizrachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizrachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Board &quot;member of 50 years&quot;:

I knew you were a board member from your very first slanderous post.

I thought you accused me of bring Dr Weiser in the previous article???

If you are going to cowardly publicise libelous assumptions, at least remain consistent.

You have trully epitomized the strife that Mizrachi Synagogue finds itself.

For you it has always been a game.

It is no wonder that Mizrachi is in its current state.

And again, though it still may not register in your troubled mind, there are many other members in Mizrachi aside from Dr Weiser who know that the current board has acted immorally and deceitefully. 

You have been proven factually incorrect in every one of your posts.

And as a result you have nothing to respond aside from slander.

Enough with the slander campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Board &#8220;member of 50 years&#8221;:</p>
<p>I knew you were a board member from your very first slanderous post.</p>
<p>I thought you accused me of bring Dr Weiser in the previous article???</p>
<p>If you are going to cowardly publicise libelous assumptions, at least remain consistent.</p>
<p>You have trully epitomized the strife that Mizrachi Synagogue finds itself.</p>
<p>For you it has always been a game.</p>
<p>It is no wonder that Mizrachi is in its current state.</p>
<p>And again, though it still may not register in your troubled mind, there are many other members in Mizrachi aside from Dr Weiser who know that the current board has acted immorally and deceitefully. </p>
<p>You have been proven factually incorrect in every one of your posts.</p>
<p>And as a result you have nothing to respond aside from slander.</p>
<p>Enough with the slander campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Old Member</title>
		<link>http://www.jwire.com.au/news/the-mizrachi-decision-rabbi-gutnick-speaks/4047/comment-page-1#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Very Old Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To member of 50 years.

You have just explained one of the main problems with the Mizrachi Synagogue over the last 9 months:
If someone dares to voice an opinion that differs to that of the Boards they are perceived by the Board to be “causing problems”.

A Board that has self confidence can afford to give views that differ from theirs a voice. A prime example is the previous Board. As members of Mizrachi will recall, some members were against the Great deal, the then Board allowed those views to be heard, allowed a debate and kept all members fully informed of both sides of the argument.

It seems to many worried members that the current Board considers anyone with a conflicting view as a trouble maker and the Board responds by going out of their way to ensure there was no debate.

It is their way or the highway and the result is the Synagogue has lost money, membership and community respect. You said that the &quot;kitchen tea&quot; members will be remaining - that’s great if its true and only time will tell, but regular attendees would know that of the 45 odd members that joined before Pesach we have seen less than 5 of them ever attend a service at the Synagogue and to date no names have been put on seats for them.

Shabbat services are attended by less people each week. Numbers now appears to have dropped below 20. Friday night gets 10 and the rest of the week, forget about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To member of 50 years.</p>
<p>You have just explained one of the main problems with the Mizrachi Synagogue over the last 9 months:<br />
If someone dares to voice an opinion that differs to that of the Boards they are perceived by the Board to be “causing problems”.</p>
<p>A Board that has self confidence can afford to give views that differ from theirs a voice. A prime example is the previous Board. As members of Mizrachi will recall, some members were against the Great deal, the then Board allowed those views to be heard, allowed a debate and kept all members fully informed of both sides of the argument.</p>
<p>It seems to many worried members that the current Board considers anyone with a conflicting view as a trouble maker and the Board responds by going out of their way to ensure there was no debate.</p>
<p>It is their way or the highway and the result is the Synagogue has lost money, membership and community respect. You said that the &#8220;kitchen tea&#8221; members will be remaining &#8211; that’s great if its true and only time will tell, but regular attendees would know that of the 45 odd members that joined before Pesach we have seen less than 5 of them ever attend a service at the Synagogue and to date no names have been put on seats for them.</p>
<p>Shabbat services are attended by less people each week. Numbers now appears to have dropped below 20. Friday night gets 10 and the rest of the week, forget about.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Old Member</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Old Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To member of 50 years.

You have just explained one of the main problems with the Mizrachi Synagogue over the last 9 months:
If someone dares to voice an opinion that differs to that of the Boards they are perceived by the Board to be “causing problems”.

A Board that has self confidence can afford to give views that differ from theirs a voice. A prime example is the previous Board. As members of Mizrachi will recall, some members were against the Great deal, the then Board allowed those views to be heard, allowed a debate and kept all members fully informed of both sides of the argument.

It seams to many worried members that the current Board considers anyone with a conflicting view as a trouble maker and the Board responds by going out of their way to ensure there was no debate.

It is their way or the highway and the result is the Synagogue has lost money, membership and community respect. You said that the &quot;kitchen tea&quot; members will be remaining - that’s great if its true and only time will tell, but regular attendees would know that of the 45 odd members that joined before Pesach we have seen less than 5 of them ever attend a service at the Synagogue and to date no names have been put on seats for them.

Shabbat services are attended by less people each week. Numbers now appears to have dropped below 20. Friday night gets 10 and the rest of the week, forget about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To member of 50 years.</p>
<p>You have just explained one of the main problems with the Mizrachi Synagogue over the last 9 months:<br />
If someone dares to voice an opinion that differs to that of the Boards they are perceived by the Board to be “causing problems”.</p>
<p>A Board that has self confidence can afford to give views that differ from theirs a voice. A prime example is the previous Board. As members of Mizrachi will recall, some members were against the Great deal, the then Board allowed those views to be heard, allowed a debate and kept all members fully informed of both sides of the argument.</p>
<p>It seams to many worried members that the current Board considers anyone with a conflicting view as a trouble maker and the Board responds by going out of their way to ensure there was no debate.</p>
<p>It is their way or the highway and the result is the Synagogue has lost money, membership and community respect. You said that the &#8220;kitchen tea&#8221; members will be remaining &#8211; that’s great if its true and only time will tell, but regular attendees would know that of the 45 odd members that joined before Pesach we have seen less than 5 of them ever attend a service at the Synagogue and to date no names have been put on seats for them.</p>
<p>Shabbat services are attended by less people each week. Numbers now appears to have dropped below 20. Friday night gets 10 and the rest of the week, forget about.</p>
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		<title>By: member of 50 years</title>
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		<dc:creator>member of 50 years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep it is boring now that I know who I am arguing with.  Doesn&#039;t make it fun any more. Mizrachi and Ron have caused enough problems in the shule.
As I said enough with your lies and distortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep it is boring now that I know who I am arguing with.  Doesn&#8217;t make it fun any more. Mizrachi and Ron have caused enough problems in the shule.<br />
As I said enough with your lies and distortions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizrachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizrachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Board &quot;member of 50 years&quot;

Having been proven totally deceitful in your previous commment, attempting to rewrite history,you have nothing to respond.

Other than slander.

You are clearly sick. 

The board lied saying rabbi gutnick didn&#039;t have life tenure.
The board lied saying rabbi gutnick didn&#039;t want to go to a din torah.
The board were the people with false affadavits.

Do not embarrass your pitiful self further.

Your slander campaign you have journeyed on tells more of yourself, than anyone else.

Delusion will not get you anywhere in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Board &#8220;member of 50 years&#8221;</p>
<p>Having been proven totally deceitful in your previous commment, attempting to rewrite history,you have nothing to respond.</p>
<p>Other than slander.</p>
<p>You are clearly sick. </p>
<p>The board lied saying rabbi gutnick didn&#8217;t have life tenure.<br />
The board lied saying rabbi gutnick didn&#8217;t want to go to a din torah.<br />
The board were the people with false affadavits.</p>
<p>Do not embarrass your pitiful self further.</p>
<p>Your slander campaign you have journeyed on tells more of yourself, than anyone else.</p>
<p>Delusion will not get you anywhere in life.</p>
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		<title>By: stop the fighting</title>
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		<dc:creator>stop the fighting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to throw stones anymore.

All I want to say, to both sides, is there are no winners in this case.

To Member of 50 years AND Mizrachi... stop arguing.
You will never agree and it serves no purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to throw stones anymore.</p>
<p>All I want to say, to both sides, is there are no winners in this case.</p>
<p>To Member of 50 years AND Mizrachi&#8230; stop arguing.<br />
You will never agree and it serves no purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: member of 50 years</title>
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		<dc:creator>member of 50 years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rabbi never gives anything graciously. Too many know the other side too.
It is only 2 people who provide continuous lies in the shule and they need to think about Yom Kippur coming up.
Oh sorry there was at least two more who gave affidavit one who really lied for the Rabbi.  
The Rabbi did not accept a payoff but now he has to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rabbi never gives anything graciously. Too many know the other side too.<br />
It is only 2 people who provide continuous lies in the shule and they need to think about Yom Kippur coming up.<br />
Oh sorry there was at least two more who gave affidavit one who really lied for the Rabbi.<br />
The Rabbi did not accept a payoff but now he has to.</p>
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