Australian Islamic Peace Conference

March 12, 2013 by J-Wire Staff
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The Jewish Christian Muslim Association of Australia has raised concerns about an Australian Islamic Peace conference being held in Melbourne this week.

jcmaThe Melbourne-based JCMA, founded in 2003, is committed to the promotion of understanding, mutual respect and peaceful relations among members of its faiths’ communities. A statement released by the organisation said: “We are unswerving in our support for the democratic values that underpin such relations in Australia and in other democratic countries. These values include the defence of individual human rights, freedom of religion and freedom of worship.

A statement issued by JCMA states: “While we affirm the organisers on the inclusion of sessions on interfaith dialogue in the conference programme, it is our understanding that a number of international speakers invited to present are not supportive of religious freedom and have a history of publicly disrespecting other faith communities and encouraging others to adopt the same position. We are concerned that these speakers will introduce overseas hatreds into the local community.

These hatreds have no place in Australia.


Australia is proud of its multicultural society, wherein people from over 150 countries and many faiths live together in considerable harmony. As a civil society, we are served when we see diversity as a strength not a liability. In a spirit of dialogue we invite the organisers of the Australian Islamic Peace Conference to arrange a meeting between their international speakers and a representative group from JCMA. We hope they will be open to hearing all that is good, true and beautiful about our life together in Australia.”

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29 Responses to “Australian Islamic Peace Conference”
  1. Shirlee says:

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/sorry_but_the_jew_hater_cant_be_with_him/

    This is an excellent piece about the “peace conference” by Andrew Bolt

    I wonder what the JCMA and the ICV have to say

  2. pam says:

    I was very happy to read that “JCMA is committed to the promotion of understanding, mutual respect and peaceful relations among members of its faiths’ communities.”

    With that in mind, maybe the ICV would reconsider its support of the odious BDS movement, which is simply a propaganda exercise to demonise Israel.

    Maybe it would also state clearly that it is opposed to any incursion of sharia into Australia, and that there must be one law for all.

  3. Ken says:

    Deception is the name of the game…All Australians need to wake up to that. Taqiyya in action never sleeps. Wilder’s main gripe is against Islamic ideology and its totalitarian nature and application. Their heirachy will never mention that and always forbid any comment, questioning or proposals for change from those indoctrinated as Muslims, to adjust Islam to the 21st century. They’re still back in 7th century logic and will make every effort to maintain that status.

  4. Kasey says:

    Deception is the name of the game…wake up to that. Taqiyya in action never sleeps. Wilder’s main gripe is against Islamic ideology and its totalitarian nature and application. Their heirachy will never mention that and forbid any comment, questioning or proposals for change from those indoctrinated as Muslims, to adjust Islam to the 21st century. They’re still back in 7th century logic and will make every effort to maintain that status.

  5. Michael says:

    Unfortunately the jccv and adc have let the Jewish community down badly by aligning themselves with the Islamic council of Victoria
    Other than make the ICV feel important and appease the Jewish left which I imagine includes the desision makers at the jccv & adc
    They have shown no leadership or courage at all
    I know where my donations won’t be going in future that’s for sure

    I can see it won’t be too long before this loony group of travelers don’t issue a joint statement. Condemning Israel , it wouldn’t surprise me one bit .

    Burdy

  6. David says:

    The Islamic Council of Victoria has finally come out with a press release excusing their endorsement of this ‘Peace Conference’. Refer http://www.icv.org.au/images/Statements/14.03_icv-s_response_to_commentary_surrounding_the_upcoming_australian_islamic_peace_conference_.pdf
    All Muslims in our community don’t seem to be in agreement though with the precepts of the ICV though (refer http://www.alfurqan.com.au/home/723-if-wilders-is-wrong-explain-this-conference).
    The ICV just don’t seem to get it.
    The elusive Waseem Razvi, organiser of this affair, has invited along a coterie of beasties (read about them in my last link from the Islamic Information Centre in Springvale) and somehow we are to be fooled that these people fall within the stated aims of the conference. Razi refuses to clarify whether the star attraction Al-Azhar Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Al-Sudais, imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, will be there as has been suggested by advance publicity.
    The ICV press release claims “Public commentary made regarding this conference has been derogatory and Islamophobic.” I would agree with this statement for the reason that the conference deserves all the criticism it is getting for the way it is being conducted. Remarks have not been Islamophobic in the sense that this term is normally bandied around – concerns are just being expressed about the Islamic-based hate speech that many of the pre-announced guest speakers have been reported as having said during their ‘illustrious’ careers.
    There is some whimpering in the ICV press release about double standards in our community where Geert Wilders was allowed to speak but the conference is not getting the same fair go. This is an extraordinary statement which conveniently forgets the huge efforts that were made to stop Geert Wilders speaking, where he was just trying to warn us about events like this so-called Peace Conference.
    The ICV is way of step on this one and I hope that more of the media hone in on their pathetic hypocritical defending of a conference which they should be condemning rather than supporting.

  7. Shirlee says:

    The problem is Michael that these people like to name call and don’t even bother trying to get to the truth of the matter.

    They need to read

    AL-YAHUD by Sam Solomon and Elias Al-Maqdisi

    I wonder if any of my ex-Muslim friends would post on here. I might ask a guy who I am friendly with who is an Indonesian Christian.

  8. Ben David says:

    Shirlee: “What do you find offensive ? All I have done is quote the speakers themselves. ”

    Yes, and you attribute those quotes from extremists to ALL Muslims incl. moderates. In your and Wilders’ universe they are all evil until they renounce their faith. The only good Muslims for you appear to be your ex-Muslim friends that you keep referring to.

    That you can’t see how such ideas might draw offense suggests a staggering lack of empathy and insight.

    You and others engage in regular and repeated denigration of Muslims. You are hardly in a position to complain about Muslims who denigrate Jews.

    For that, people will look to the JCCV and the JCMA who, unlike you, have the moral standing to complain quite loudly.

    • Shirlee says:

      “For that, people will look to the JCCV and the JCMA who, unlike you, have the moral standing to complain quite loudly.”
      Really, now that is quite a revelation.
      The JCCV supports this by the sound of things, ne’er a peep out of them.

      Do try following a thread. Michael posted down the page
      “I heard from a very reliable source that JCMA member ICV Islamic Council of Victoria refused to participate in any statement that was in any way critical of Islamic Clerics , Islam or the hosts of the so called peace Conference. I heard that all the other JCMA members are subservient to the ICV and have to dance to their tune.”

      This speaks heaps
      http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/christians_not_safe_at_muslim_conference/
      A Christian writes about the Islamic “peace” conference in Melbourne that invited a bunch of hate-preachers:

      Some Christians who had approval to hire a stall giving away Bibles at the Islamic ‘Peace Conference’ at the Melbourne Showgrounds this weekend have had this approval withdrawn. The Christians, from various churches around Melbourne, had been offered a 6 x 3 metre stall for $600. The Islamic Research and Educational Academy (IREA) contacted them last night and said that the Bible stall could not go ahead because it would be “unsafe”.

  9. Michael says:

    Ben let me tell you if I had the choice of having dinner with a Jewish person demonstrating outside Beth Weizman demonizing the JNF & Israel a member of a * * JCCV affiliated organization who advocates for Palestinians or Geert wilders who has risked his life in Holland to advocate for Israel and Jewish Israeli Human Rights , its a no brainier Ben…..
    Call me stupid or racist whatever.. Sticks and stones………

    Burdy.

  10. Shirlee says:

    Ben I suggest you read this book

    AL-YAHUD by Sam Solomon and Elias Al-Maqdisi both are apostates from Islam

    It says in the Dedication

    “First and foremost , this effort is ultimately dedicated to every Jew who has suffered the legacy of the Islamic enmity toward their people. Starting from Arabia in the 7th century..till today.. till the end of time. And for whet?..For simply being a Jew”

    The last paragraph reads
    “And finally, I dedicate this book to the esteemed Sate of Israel, that great beacon of light which stands as a sentinel in the midst of darkness and steadfastly serves the rest of us like a canary in the mineshaft- facing the brunt of the 21st century of Islam”

    The cheapest place to buy the book, is from http://www.fishpond.com.au They are reliable I buy from them.

    I haven’t as yet read it. It was sent to me and I have been asked to pass it around.

  11. Shirlee says:

    I’ll post this again as it appears Jawahar missed it. It would be interesting to get his views on this especially this one

    Sheikh Yee, claims Jews celebrated the September 11 attacks, which weren’t the work of Muslims, and Jews are the real extremists:
    The most extreme nation in this world is the Jews. So if they use ‘extremists,’ it doesn’t apply to Muslims. It applies to the Jews. They are the extremists of the world. That’s why they kill Palestinians every day…. [Jews] go to Hell.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmpCh_HBr_Y&feature=player_embedded

    The main organiser Waseem Razvi supports Sharia law in Australia.
    In a lecture recorded last December in Melbourne, , , said Islam allowed violence in defence of the faith:
    You don’t have to try to convince by being compromising on Islam … you don’t have to say that Islam is all about peace, “no we don’t fight, we are not violent.” You know, the Prophet fought 30 wars … yes, we are not non-violent, we are violent but when there is a need for it. We are battles people. We are not like Buddhists wearing an orange dress and always saying we want peace, and you never get your own country. No, we fight for our country. We have in Islam Jihad, yes, but we will never do terrorism. Yes Jihad is very Islamic, so you don’t have to retreat from that.

    Sheikh Assim Al-Hakeem, says the punishment for gays is death:
    In a video on YouTube in which he is asked whether being gay is wrong, Al-Hakeem says homosexuality is ‘unnatural’.
    ‘If you refer to the Old Testament, you will find that homosexuality is forbidden and the punishment for that is stoning to death. In Islam, the same thing applies.
    He added: ‘Homosexuality is an abnormality which should be treated and should not be accepted as a normal thing.’
    In answer to a question on his website, Al-Hakeem also compares gay people to ‘animals that seek only their sexual satisfaction through their weird ways’.

    Al-Hakeem also calls for the death of those who leave Islam:
    What is the penalty on a person who change his religion from Islam to some other religion ?
    This is apostasy and it is punishable by death in an Islamic society.

    Another invited speaker – is Sheikh Zakir Naik, who has said he was a supporter of Osama bin Laden if he was attacking enemies of Islam: Every Muslim should be a terrorist.
    Naik also denies Islamists caused the September 11 attack: It is a blatant, open secret that this attack on the Twin Towers was done by George Bush himself.

    Another speaker Abu Hamza from Melbourne-based IISNA, who has offered Muslims advice on ”how to beat your wife” to make them “shape up”:
    In a lecture titled “The Keys to a Successful Marriage”, … Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, “to shape them up”…
    He also said women “must respond” if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage…
    In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners “don’t hit your wife”. But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
    He says it is permissible to hit women as a “last resort” but that “the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth”.
    “You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed…
    ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftv3ibSVHzs&feature=player_embedded

  12. Ben David says:

    Michael/Shirlee

    You both openly supported the racist and hateful views of Wilders.

    It does not lie in either of your mouths to now be condemning the arrival of a racist Muslim speaker.

    Only the JCMA and those who supported their stance on Wilders have any moral high ground to complain.

    For rest, I suggest you look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary.

    Ben David

    • Shirlee says:

      Where do you live on planet Earth?

      Islam is not race. Michael and I are far from alone in how we think too, so I think you don’t live in the real world.
      http://www.jwire.com.au/news/jccv-reaffirms-support-for-multiculturism/32570/comment-page-1#comment-35210

      As for your other comments they are not worth bothering with. I would suggest that you buy and read the book I have quoted, you might just learn something.

      • Ben David says:

        Pedantic response that misses the point in my post. Delete the word “racist” if you want to quibble over that. If the Muslim speaker in question makes comments towards Jews that are half as offensive as the material you and Michael have come up with towards Muslims, you’ll be frothing at the mouth.

        • Shirlee says:

          What do you find offensive ? All I have done is quote the speakers themselves.

          I suppose you think this is for fun do you. My ex-Muslim friends are horrified.

          Sheikh Yee, claims Jews celebrated the September 11 attacks, which weren’t the work of Muslims, and Jews are the real extremists:
          The most extreme nation in this world is the Jews. So if they use ‘extremists,’ it doesn’t apply to Muslims. It applies to the Jews. They are the extremists of the world. That’s why they kill Palestinians every day…. [Jews] go to Hell.

      • Michelle says:

        Good on you Shirlee!! they coming here for peace conference? how about having peace conferences in Muslim countries? so far they murdering each other in all they countries, how about taking care of they own?as for Ben David check on the list of the guest speakers and than go on to YouTube and listen what they have to say how much they “love us” so who is a hypocrite now? As for Jewish organization condemning Gert Wilders for saying the truth, Shame on you!!

      • Jawahar says:

        Shirlee,

        I pity your ignorance, racism used to be related to races ONLY long back; wake up, it now includes religious discrimination and many other discriminations including cultural discrimination as well, remembering that cultures have evolved from religions.

        GO GET YOURSELF EDUCATED

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

    • Shirlee says:

      This comment was taken a few month back from a Forum, posted by a regular Muslim contributor

      “Islam has regulations relating to war & peace, depending on the situation at hand, as do pretty much all ideologies. The idea that Islam attempts to present itself as being purely peaceful is a Western construct, not an Islamic one.”

    • Shirlee says:

      The more I think about it Ben, the more I am annoyed by your comments in regards to Wilders. You are condemning a person on hearsay. How dare you presume that his views are hateful, when you have never given him the courtesy of your attendance at one of his meetings.?

      Islam is not a race. Therefore he is not a racist.

      Want hate?

      Get started on the Koran, the Hadith, the Sunnah and the Reliance of the Traveller, if you want to know what hate is about.

      Ever wondered why apostates from Islam live with a death threat over their head?
      http://www.apostatesofislam.com/

  13. Michael says:

    I heard from a very reliable source that JCMA member ICV Islamic Council of Victoria refused to participate in any statement that was in any way critical of Islamic Clerics , Islam or the hosts of the so called peace Conference. I heard that all the other JCMA members are subservient to the ICV and have to dance to their tune.

    This member of the Jewish community is ashamed that any Jewish community body that supposedly represents my interests has anything to do with this bunch of gutless left wing Looney groups. They lack courage and leadership beggars belief and from what I hear form non Jewish interest groups and individuals that I come across this statement and the individuals s behind it are a laughing stock.

    Burdy.

    • Shirlee says:

      Behind you 1,000% Michael.

      Michael, I’m afraid I just get this Jewish/Muslim thing at all.

      The laughing stock of Jewish Sydney are the Jewish/Muslim women’s cooking sessions. It is really quite pathetic and bothers and bugs me beyond belief.

      We were regaled at the last B of Deps meeting by one of the participants excitingly telling us how successful it has been and how, WAIT for it, one of the Muslim women “even took her hijab off, followed by a rebbetzin removing her sheitel’

      I had a look at the Facebook page of one of these ladies what I found out about her was none too pleasant

      Our Community Leaders need to read AL-YAHUD by Sam Solomon and Elias Al-Maqdisi both are apostates from Islam

      It says in the Dedication

      “First and foremost , this effort is ultimately dedicated to every Jew who has suffered the legacy of the Islamic enmity toward their people. Starting from Arabia in the 7th century..till today.. till the end of time. And for whet?..For simply being a Jew”

      The last paragraph reads
      “And finally, I dedicate this book to the esteemed Sate of Israel, that great beacon of light which stands as a sentinel in the midst of darkness and steadfastly serves the rest of us like a canary in the mineshaft- facing the brunt of the 21st century of Islam”

      The cheapest place to buy the book, I looked it up is from http://www.fishpond.com.au They are reliable I buy from them. It is available from the Q Society too

  14. Leo says:

    [The Jewish Christian Muslim Association of Australia has raised concerns about an Australian Islamic Peace conference being held in Melbourne this week.]

    What raised those concerns? Did you guys suddenly realise that importing extremely religious ethnoreligious supremacists from the most polarising and religiously fundamentalist countries on the planet just MIGHT be a bad idea?

  15. Raoul says:

    What do you expect, Shirlee? After all interfaith harmony and not arousing the wrath of the Islamofascists is #1 priority. These reincarnated Judenraete will happily provide lists of their community members to the Zentral Amt for Peace and Harmony once the time comes.

    Don’t you know the crocodile always eats the good kumbajah people last?

  16. Shirlee says:

    Where is the Statement from our *ESTEEMED* so-called leaders condemning this?

    The silence is deafening, especially after the their ‘performance’ against a very open, honest and truthful Geert Wilders.

    Andre Bolt said on the issue.
    “Depressingly, he has even been shunned by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and Jewish community leaders. It seems to me that political or community advantage is being put before principle – and fear is preventing a rational discussion of Wilders’ message. ”
    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/if_wilders_is_wrong_explain_this_conference/

    Big deal Abdul Rahman Al-Sudays, the imam of Mecca isn’t coming, but what about –

    The main organiser Waseem Razvi supports Sharia law in Australia.
    In a lecture recorded last December in Melbourne, , , said Islam allowed violence in defence of the faith:
    You don’t have to try to convince by being compromising on Islam … you don’t have to say that Islam is all about peace, “no we don’t fight, we are not violent.” You know, the Prophet fought 30 wars … yes, we are not non-violent, we are violent but when there is a need for it. We are battles people. We are not like Buddhists wearing an orange dress and always saying we want peace, and you never get your own country. No, we fight for our country. We have in Islam Jihad, yes, but we will never do terrorism. Yes Jihad is very Islamic, so you don’t have to retreat from that.

    Sheikh Assim Al-Hakeem, says the punishment for gays is death:
    In a video on YouTube in which he is asked whether being gay is wrong, Al-Hakeem says homosexuality is ‘unnatural’.
    ‘If you refer to the Old Testament, you will find that homosexuality is forbidden and the punishment for that is stoning to death. In Islam, the same thing applies.
    He added: ‘Homosexuality is an abnormality which should be treated and should not be accepted as a normal thing.’
    In answer to a question on his website, Al-Hakeem also compares gay people to ‘animals that seek only their sexual satisfaction through their weird ways’.

    Al-Hakeem also calls for the death of those who leave Islam:
    What is the penalty on a person who change his religion from Islam to some other religion ?
    This is apostasy and it is punishable by death in an Islamic society.

    Another invited speaker – is Sheikh Zakir Naik, who has said he was a supporter of Osama bin Laden if he was attacking enemies of Islam: Every Muslim should be a terrorist.
    Naik also denies Islamists caused the September 11 attack: It is a blatant, open secret that this attack on the Twin Towers was done by George Bush himself.

    Another speaker Abu Hamza from Melbourne-based IISNA, who has offered Muslims advice on ”how to beat your wife” to make them “shape up”:
    In a lecture titled “The Keys to a Successful Marriage”, … Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, “to shape them up”…
    He also said women “must respond” if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage…
    In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners “don’t hit your wife”. But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
    He says it is permissible to hit women as a “last resort” but that “the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth”.
    “You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed…
    ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftv3ibSVHzs&feature=player_embedded

    Sheikh Yee, claims Jews celebrated the September 11 attacks, which weren’t the work of Muslims, and Jews are the real extremists:
    The most extreme nation in this world is the Jews. So if they use ‘extremists,’ it doesn’t apply to Muslims. It applies to the Jews. They are the extremists of the world. That’s why they kill Palestinians every day…. [Jews] go to Hell.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmpCh_HBr_Y&feature=player_embedded

    Melbourne’s Sheikh Abu Ayman (aka Sheikh Omran), has long defended Osama bin Laden says:
    “I dispute any evil action linked to bin Laden.”

    Let us hear the condemnation from the ECAJ and endorsed by:

    The B’nai B’rith Anti Defamation Commission

    The New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies

    The Jewish Community Council of Victoria

    The Jewish Community Council of Western Australia Inc.

    The Queensland Jewish Board of Deputies

    The Jewish Community Council of South Australia

    Hobart Hebrew Congregation Inc.

    The ACT Jewish Community Inc.,

  17. Shirlee says:

    How cute !!!

    “The Jewish Christian Muslim Association of Australia has raised concerns about an Australian Islamic Peace conference being held in Melbourne this week.”

    ………and naturally this whacky group is based in loony left Melbourne, which just about sums it all up.

    How truly pathetic.

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